Follow TV Tropes

Following

Privacy, Government, Surveillance, and You.

Go To

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#3726: Oct 14th 2015 at 1:27:02 PM

Sure, but it not being a law doesn't mean it shouldn't be.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#3728: Oct 14th 2015 at 1:28:16 PM

If nothing else the government at least shouldn't be pretending that it's following that policy when it's not.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#3729: Oct 21st 2015 at 5:03:54 AM

Apple take another hit, with the discovery of over 250 apps that stole personal data and forwarded it to a Chinese advertising corporation.

Apple has removed hundreds of apps from the iTunes App Store that secretly collected personal information from anyone who downloaded them. Most of the 256 affected apps were made in China, but they were available worldwide on the app store and were downloaded 1 million times, according to app analytics service Source DNA, which first discovered the problem.

The apps' creators used a software development kit from a Chinese advertising company called Youmi, which allowed the developers to put ads in their apps. That's kosher. But Youmi's software gathered information about the people who downloaded the apps, including their email addresses and iPhone serial numbers — sending all that data to Youmi's servers. That skirted Apple's strict privacy guidelines for app developers. And the way Youmi designed the software hid that fact from the developers and Apple's iTunes App Store gatekeepers.

Source DNA did not say which apps were affected. The company told Apple about the problem on Sunday, and Apple removed the apps on Monday. "This is a violation of our security and privacy guidelines," Apple said in a statement. "The apps using Youmi's SDK will be removed from the App Store and any new apps submitted to the App Store using this SDK will be rejected." Anyone who already downloaded the apps will still be able to use them but the apps won't be updated.

The data collection does not appear to be the developers' fault, since Youmi was disguising the fact that its software was sending that data to its servers. Apple said it is working with the app developers to update their apps, ensuring they are safe for customers and in compliance with the app store's guidelines. The apps are banned from the store until they are fixed.

This is the third big lapse in Apple's typically tight app store security in the past month. Last week, Apple banned a group of apps that were able to peek into encrypted communications between the iPhones they were installed on and the servers the phones communicated with. In late September, the app store suffered a major attack, forcing Apple to remove dozens of popular apps that had been infected by malware. The malicious apps were capable of duping customers into giving up their iCloud passwords and opening dangerous websites.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#3730: Oct 23rd 2015 at 1:03:58 PM

TalkTalk cyber-attack: Website hit by 'significant' breach

Police are investigating a "significant and sustained cyber-attack" on the TalkTalk website, the UK company says. The phone and broadband provider, which has over four million UK customers, said banking details and personal information could have been accessed. TalkTalk said potentially all customers could be affected but it was too early to know what data had been stolen.

The Metropolitan Police said no-one had been arrested over Wednesday's attack but enquiries were ongoing. TalkTalk said in a statement that a criminal investigation had been launched on Thursday.

It said there was a chance that some of the following customer data, not all of which was encrypted, had been accessed:

  • Names and addresses
  • Dates of birth
  • Email addresses
  • Telephone numbers
  • TalkTalk account information
  • Credit card and bank details

In the wake of the news, the company's share price dropped by 10% in the first few hours after the London stock exchange opened at 08:00 BST.

Cyber security consultant and former Scotland Yard detective Adrian Culley told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that a Russian Islamist group had posted online to claim responsibility for the attacks. He said hackers claiming to be a cyber-jihadi group had posted data which appeared to be TalkTalk customers' private information - although he stressed their claim was yet to be verified or investigated.

Dido Harding, chief executive of the TalkTalk group, told BBC News the authorities were investigating and she could not comment on the claims.

However, customers have expressed their frustration with what is the third cyber-attack to affect TalkTalk over the past 12 months.

TalkTalk cyber-attack: Boss 'receives ransom email'

The head of Talk Talk says she has had an email demanding a ransom from a group purporting to be behind the cyber-attack suffered by the company. Chief executive Dido Harding said she did not know whether the ransom email was genuine.

The phone and broadband provider said personal and banking details of up to four million customers may have been accessed in the "significant" attack. The Met Police said the email was "forming part of its investigations".

"It is hard for me to give you very much detail, but yes, we have been contacted by, I don't know whether it is an individual or a group, purporting to be the hacker," Ms Harding told the BBC's business editor Kamal Ahmed. "All I can say is that I had personally received a contact from someone purporting - as I say I don't know whether they are or are not - to be the hacker looking for money."

The BBC's security correspondent Gordon Corera said government sources had told him they currently viewed the Talk Talk incident as cybercrime, rather than anything relating to national security.

Keep Rolling On
Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#3731: Oct 29th 2015 at 11:18:06 PM

Police to be granted powers to view your internet history

Police are to get the power to view the web browsing history of everyone in the country. Home Secretary Theresa May will announce the plans when she introduces the Government's new surveillance bill in the House of Commons on Wednesday. The Telegraph understands the new powers for the police will form part of the new bill.

It would make it a legal requirement for communications companies to retain all the web browsing history of customers for 12 months in case the spy agencies or police need to access them. Police would be able to access specific web addresses visited by customers.

The new powers would allow the police to seize details of the website and searches being made by people they wanted to investigate. They will still need to apply for judicial approval to be able to access the content of the websites.

Keep Rolling On
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#3732: Oct 30th 2015 at 7:29:25 AM

[up] You'd be naive to think this sort of thing would only be limited to terror suspects and child abusers. Soon it would be used to spy on people who visit websites or post comments that are critical of the government.

You fail, Britain.

edited 30th Oct '15 7:32:07 AM by speedyboris

Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#3733: Oct 30th 2015 at 8:29:43 AM

Once the guv'mint can charge you for taxes, they will start charging you for your porn! Then they will leech off your wifi, and they will start to crash down in your couch (with the excuse that it is just for a coupla days) and before long they are going to be eating your doritos!

What is next? Uploading your dataz to Islam 3d printers so they can print your soul and offer it to satan? AND YOUR CHILDREN'S!?!?

P.S: Handling Big Data is not easy.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
hellomoto Since: Sep, 2015
#3734: Nov 5th 2015 at 2:29:41 AM

Is it invasion of privacy if e.g. Amazon tracks the searches that are being made on its website?

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#3735: Nov 5th 2015 at 4:53:47 AM

Depends on your definition of privacy; after all, you are voluntarily giving data to Amazon.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#3736: Nov 5th 2015 at 5:39:44 AM

Depends very much, I know that under EU privacy laws sites now have to tell you if they put cookies on your system when you use their site, but yeah in the end you're giving them the information.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#3738: Dec 5th 2015 at 6:12:44 PM

Could a Elf on a Shelf affect Yourself?

I was kind of expecting something more academic when I followed a set of links to this opinion piece, but I figured I might as well post it anyway and see what people thought about a toy built around a strange game of Christmas surveillance. ("He knows when you've been sleeping, he knows when you're awake...")

edited 5th Dec '15 6:15:21 PM by TotemicHero

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#3739: Dec 5th 2015 at 8:18:41 PM

Believe it or not, this is the first time I've ever heard of an "elf on the shelf". I mean besides that DTV movie. Some parents actually teach their kids not to touch it and that the elf "reports to Santa" whether they're good or bad? That's... weird.

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#3740: Dec 6th 2015 at 6:16:59 AM

Conditioning children to a survelliance state absolutely exists. One of the reasons Ultimate Spider-Man(the cartoon) is an evil piece of shit is having that as an aesop.

S.H.I.E.L.D. instalce survelliance and defense systems in Peter's house as a way to protect it from supervillains when Peter is away. Peter naturally voices privacy concerns, that are treated as ridiculous and childish to the point that Nick Fury violates his privacy just for voicing them(he shows footage of Peter's house to the bullies the show loves to pretend are his friends, for the express purpose of humiliating him).

To make matters even worse, in a later episode, the system malfunctions after an attempt to shut it down for a day so that people could have a party in peace, registering Peter and his friends as the enemy. They defeat it, but does anyone get called out for installing something this stupidly dangerous? Nope. Does the system get a normal off switch? Nope. The lesson seems to be that if you want any kind of privacy, you deserve to fucking die.

It breaks my fucking heart to think that there are kids who watch this disgusting crap.

edited 6th Dec '15 6:17:22 AM by Luminosity

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#3742: Dec 7th 2015 at 12:20:06 PM

The whole "talking on cell phones during work" thing bugs me. People should know it's proper office etiquette to take that crap away from your desk.

Anyway, I've worked in an open office with walls, if that makes any sense. So we didn't have our own cubes but there was still some semblance/illusion of separation between groups of workers. Totally open work stations, like the one described in the article, are insane. You have zero privacy and sense of personal space.

I've seen the open office style in car dealerships; it's supposed to feel less intimidating for the customer than being in a cube with a salesman. Not sure how much I buy into that, though.

edited 7th Dec '15 12:23:47 PM by speedyboris

Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#3743: Dec 7th 2015 at 12:37:40 PM

In my internship, I worked in a sort of open space scenario (computers side by side, no walls of separation, except when the superiors had an exclusive reunion and closed the sliding/retractable door).

It was fine, since the company is not very formal in its hierarchy, beyond the necessary designations. I could easily exchange a few words with all the top guys (and woman, with her being my supervisor/guide).

It also helps that the company was fairly small (both in size of the office and in its number of interns). I can't see the open space thing working in larger and/or highly formal companies, though.

Nowadays, however, I think they stopped doing that, ever since they moved the office from one building to another.

edited 7th Dec '15 12:38:36 PM by Quag15

Luminosity Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
#3744: Dec 7th 2015 at 12:44:03 PM

[up][up] The logic for that last one is to trick people who don't know how sales work.

"You see, that right there is my boss, and if she thinks I'm screwing you over, she'll give me such a spanking," says salesman Johnson.

What salesman Johnson will not say is that the truth is the opposite. Sales is about squeezing as much money out of you as inhumanly possible, so if anything, salesman Johnson will face a night of BDSM if he won't screw you over as much as his boss would like.

Not that a sense of privacy will help too much, because salesmen at best just want to meet their insane and unreasonable quotas.

DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#3745: Dec 7th 2015 at 2:19:47 PM

This is drifting a little off topic, guys.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#3746: Dec 15th 2015 at 10:14:53 PM

Is Europe really going to ban teenagers from Facebook and the internet?

The European Parliament is set to vote on Tuesday on new rules that could see teenagers banned from internet services such as Facebook, social media, messaging services or anything that processes their data, without explicit consent from their parent or guardian.

The last-minute amendment to the new European data protection regulations would make it illegal for companies to handle the data of anyone aged 15 or younger, raising the legal age of digital consent to 16 from 13.

Companies wishing to allow those under 16 to use their services, including Facebook, Snapchat, Whatsapp and Instagram, will have to gain explicit consent from their legal guardian.

The draft law states: “The processing of personal data of a child below the age of 16 years shall only be lawful if and to the extent that such consent is given or authorised by the holder of parental responsibility over the child.”

Companies such as Facebook currently allow users from the age of 13 to join their services. Their policies are based on the age of digital consent being 13, as defined by the US Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act (Coppa) and similar laws in the EU, which afford those under 13 extra privacy protections.

Until recently, the draft European data protection bill, which is four years in the making, set the digital age of consent at 13, mirroring Coppa.

The changes would legally stop teenagers from accessing social media, among other internet services, unless a parent or guardian consents, but it will likely not stop them from accessing the services.

Facebook required users to be 17 or older before 2006, when it was opened up to the public, but that did not stop teenagers from signing up. Most social media accounts request dates of birth on setting up accounts, but have no way to verify the information.

Unlike those adults signing up to over-18 services, such as adult entertainment sites, which often use a credit card as part of age verification, teenagers under 17 do not have verifiable age-based identification.

For the technology companies the biggest issue with the new rules would be policing them. Stopping teenagers under 16 from accessing messaging, social media and other sites would be very difficult. European legislators are no doubt under intense lobbying pressure to remove the age of consent change from the draft.

US technology firms, including Facebook and Google, have faced an increasingly tough European landscape over the recent years, coming under intense scrutiny over privacy and taxation practices.

The new pan-European data protection bill is the result of this changing attitude to data privacy, and follows recent action by the European Court of Justice to block the transfer of European citizens’ data to the US under Safe Harbour rules.

Keep Rolling On
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3747: Dec 16th 2015 at 1:31:18 AM

Oh wow. Whoever cooked up that thing must be really really crazy.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#3748: Dec 16th 2015 at 2:02:37 AM

[up]

If it works the way I think it does, nothing will actually change. The use of the internet has implied consent from the parents for a while now. It's unlikely to change the interpretation of the law by member states.

Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#3749: Dec 16th 2015 at 4:56:37 AM

It suffers from the fundamental problem of being impossible to verify with current Internet technology.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3750: Dec 16th 2015 at 5:02:02 AM

I think it's one half a "the blind leading the blind" (=I am rather dubious that most parents have much understanding of the risks and benefits of social networks) "fix" and another half "too narrow to be worthwhile" (=people in general need to be more careful with their information on the Internet, I think).

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Total posts: 4,767
Top