Power Rangers as a whole

Super Megaforce definitely had very little focus. I agree it could've been way better. It had too many missed opportunities.

I still found it more enjoyable than Operation Overdrive, but I can even admit that had a better overall season due to fleshing out its ideas.

That said, the final crossover of Super Megaforce VS OO's Crossover. Which one did you guys like better? Strangely, I'd have to say OO. If only due to the music and that the Rangers had a purpose for more than a "one shot battle". I mean, they brought them there for a major story point.

Not that there wasn't obviously a purpose, but unlike the Movie that adapted the final battle, where the reason the Rangers Keys showed up was due to two teams trying to work together to defeat a true evil, they just show up out of nowhere. I mean, the reason why they do is obvious. It's a world invasion, duh. But it felt like they didn't really put much into it otherwise.

That, and no major Zord battles with old zords. I know some were destroyed, but what about the ones that are alive and kicking? Dragonzord, for instance. Delta Command Megazord. Delta Megazord(heh). All the Jungle Fury Zords were, last I checked. I'm guessing it was due to a budget issue and lack of episodes that they couldn't make a glorious battle. Even so, it's still disappointing, justified or not.(I would like to know why they went with such a smaller ending than the original Japanese crossover movie, though)

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I believe it's a combination of budget and the EP at the time being of the "just do a straight adaptation and not be original" variety.

Which really, really sucks when the series in question is Gokaiger, which was basically a 50~ episode seminar of "SUPER SENTAI IS BITCHIN' AWESOME, AND LEMME TELL YA WHY". And it was, in so many ways, bitchin' awesome.

Super Megaforce, similarly, should by all rights have been adapted to carry a similar theme, but with Power Rangers.

... This probably would have taken at least three times the budget that went into the show, and probably five or ten times the effort.

edited 1st Dec '14 7:46:50 PM by EvaUnit01

Indeed.

I didn't find all of it bad by any means. An episode or two could've been better. Certainly the last one, that's for sure. I mean, the one where they refight the season 1 boss was awesome.

I know Mystic Force suffered from a budget problem, but they did managed to capture the original decently enough... mainly because of using the original's footage. >_> Although it did having an amazing instrumental theme too, and despite the cheesy finish against The Master, it was a very well done one. You could really feel it.

Sadly, Super Megaforce's ending was pretty lackluster. Beating the Emperor was fine. I thought that was decently. The final battle was very underwhelming. The hype wasn't lived up to.

But back to Megaforce for a minute, I still find it funny that one of the episodes, when they destroy one of the major villains with the Command Ship version of the Megazord(name escapes me right now), Samurai's theme played. Sure, it sounded great, but it's still the wrong one.

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&Irene eh I checked out the final episode on Netflix, not a fan but it's a million x better than Once a Ranger. Once a Ranger gave me PTSD. "Legend War" was just a barely above average finale to a below average season.

Weirdly, the first season of Megaforce, the adjectiveless one, did a better job at celebrating Power Rangers than Super Megaforce.

You had the 5 Rangers as expies of the original five (with Troy being a Composite Character of Jason and Tommy) and their colors corresponding to the original five, you had the insect them villains that worked as a callback to Lost Galaxy, you had the earth-based pollution bad guys that worked as a callback to Wild Force plus the pro-green message called back to MMPR and Wild Force, the machine villains wanting to take over and seeing humans as weak called back to Zeo and RPM. Robo Knight was reminiscent of Blue Senturion.

edited 1st Dec '14 8:25:18 PM by Batman39

You really need to explain how it's better, because I can't think of any reason to believe so.

The past rangers showed up for such a little time, they had zero characterization to speak of. It had absolutely zero memorable music, if any(which is what makes major fights so exciting at times). They barely had more than a cameo, so no introductions. The fight scenes were spliced or shortened to an embarrassing degree(I know some digital work was needed to remove some suits, unless it was all reshot, and in that case, they barely had any ranger fight except the main ones, as the Past Rangers was just about all in the background). Did I forget the memorable music part? Also, they were there because they were there. The motivation was obvious, but lacking.

Once A Ranger had a motivation. The powers were gone. Sentinel Knight restore past ones, choosing very strong and notable Rangers, those who actually could exist in that time period. In addition, he also tried to teach the OO Rangers a lesson about their powers. And the fight scenes were choreography'd very well. It had great music, every Ranger doing something(the Legend War definitely could've added more mini-fights. I get the lack of screen time literally available, but that doesn't change that the product in the end suffered for it. Justifications doesn't change disappointment, after all), and personalities all around. It dedicated two episodes to this, which helped a lot too. I'm sure if we had gotten at least one more episode for the final battle, we could've had a way better story, so it'd be on par with the other crossovers, if not make it better.

To be honest, of all the crossovers, I found this one of the most disappointing. Time Force and Lightspeed Rescue are the only two to actually be on its level, and that's due to Time Force having a mediocre story and a lame finish(really, a quick shot to a Super Demon and his partner with the Mega Battles and Battleizers were all they could think of? That was just lame. No zord fights? No fairly long battles that ended with that finish at least?), and Lightspeed's story being awful and full of holes(why does the clerk not believe Monsters exist in a city constantly attacked by Demons? Never mind the Rangers weren't allowed much screen time. The final battle was fine, at least).

edited 1st Dec '14 9:07:49 PM by Irene

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... ya know what? You're absolutely right.

edited 2nd Dec '14 6:42:37 AM by EvaUnit01

Ironic how Megaforce did a pretty good job at creating nostalgia, yet the season dedicated to it didn't do as good of a job, right?

And I agree. Super Megaforce was fun to watch, but nostalgic was only to a very light degree. It clearly used too much Gokaiger footage, as many don't know of those suits at all, not even long time veterans of regular Power Rangers. If they could've shot the scenes with the current suits only(although I can forgive them for not editing out the suits in the Legend War since it's already hard enough to edit out, say, MMPR White Ranger), without reshooting the whole thing. Also, that's a lot of actors you need to get. They already had a lot with the very high amount of mooks and elite mooks. I definitely see the "no budget" point. S.P.D. did go over the budget too, but at least it had really awesome mechs to make up for it(and why they did, more or less. Special effects too). I do not know how much was Japanese footage for all the mechs that villains had in that season. I never saw its counterpart(or looked much at its story). I only know that Mystic Force was almost identical to its source material, minus the actors and voices. Maybe a few more differences, possibly. I don't even know if it had a single unique episode either.

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[["You really need to explain how it's better, because I can't think of any reason to believe so."]]

The Operation Overdrive team is one of the most god awful obnoxious team of Rangers, the Mega Rangers are just whatever.

[["The fight scenes were spliced or shortened to an embarrassing degree(I know some digital work was needed to remove some suits, unless it was all reshot, and in that case, they barely had any ranger fight except the main ones, as the Past Rangers was just about all in the background)."]] It was all from what I can tell editing from the Sentai footage cut around to avoid as many pre-zyu teams as possible. The only original edition was Super Mega Silver fighting.

[[ ", those who actually could exist in that time period."]] I guess you're forgetting about how he chose Bridge? At least Super Megaforce had the excuse of "all the Rangers of the past (meta wise not chronologically) fight for fan service. If Sentinel Knight was only going to pick 5 Rangers why not choose like any of the 40+ Rangers still on earth in THAT time period. They're both kind of ignoring logic, but Super Megaforce has far much more of an excuse. "Well we want all the Rangers of the past 20 years teaming up" versus "we want 5 Rangers, so let's choose one that's not even born yet in the show's timeline]]

[["In addition, he also tried to teach the OO Rangers a lesson about their powers. And the fight scenes were choreography'd very well. "]] The choreography in OO like all of Power Rangers since about Mystic Force has been god awful and embarrassing. Once a Ranger was the first episode of Power Rangers I watched since Wild Force and I was cringing on how bad the fight choreography had become.

[["To be honest, of all the crossovers, I found this one of the most disappointing. Time Force and Lightspeed Rescue are the only two to actually be on its level, and that's due to Time Force having a mediocre story and a lame finish(really, a quick shot to a Super Demon and his partner with the Mega Battles and Battleizers were all they could think of? That was just lame. No zord fights? No fairly long battles that ended with that finish at least?), and Lightspeed's story being awful and full of holes(why does the clerk not believe Monsters exist in a city constantly attacked by Demons? Never mind the Rangers weren't allowed much screen time. The final battle was fine, at least)."]]

To bad honest the only good crossovers were To the Tenth Power/Power of Pink and Reinforcements from the future.

edited 2nd Dec '14 6:53:49 PM by batman39

And yet have a bit more personality and not essentially just copying another set of Rangers. And I don't mean their Ranger Keys. I didn't see how they were obnoxious in general(maybe in this crossover only, but in general?). I do keep hearing they were derailed character-wise. I'd like that explained a bit, since I don't remember how they were different from the norm.

I admit, it bored me that much. Outside of the two crossovers I listed(which I found on par with Super Megaforce, in other words, not very good), the rest had very good fight scenes and managed to keep it, well, interesting. Super Megaforce did not. Operation Overdrive did. Not that I consider it perfect, honestly. There's better. To put it simply, the high concentration on members fighting the monsters in sets is what tend to make each fight scene interesting. Super Megaforce failed this pretty badly. As did the LS/LG and LS/TF ones.

To be fair, finding episodes to rewatch is difficult. And I saw it as a very balanced team of Rangers. Sentinel Knight is pretty weird(it does help that his previous actor played Mystic Force's Chip) at times. And notice how none of those are the "key" rangers of their slots. Xander is the closest to the a highly popular one. The rest more or less were somewhat of weirder selection among the teams, which worked in its favor. It was highly diverse for 5 rangers, and not just catering to the typical overused ones(you can at best maybe say this for Adam). If you want to argue ignoring a lot of Saban Rangers was bad, sure. But the actual exact members seemed fine. And yes, I do think it has way better motivation than the generic "world is in danger, save it". The weird time travel bit with Bridge has gotta be one of the funniest moments in the season. It's there for clear comedy, and it perfectly fits his characterization, which is strange logic. Also, the fact they were catering to Disney choices, and Bridge is the only one that could fit just due to this strange logic. Fans of him or S.P.D. will notice he's the strange one. Just like Trip is. He's the clown. The favorable kind.

Not seeing it. They looked pretty great to me. A few dumb throwaway lines do exist, no doubt about that, but they still look perfectly fine. I didn't see anything embarrassing either. What was so embarrassing about it(honest question, since this is generalizing a bit and you're not really giving many details here)? Most of the time, it was just stock footage from Japan in many cases, and has in fact been that way for a very long time, somewhat spliced. Usually spliced even more outside of the new humans.

I was not a huge fan of OO, don't get me wrong, but I'm still failing to see how Once A Ranger was awful. The only two things I've heard was Mack using the Excelsior was a bad idea, and that their characters were derailed. I agree with the first bit, but the second one I'd like more explanation on since it's fairly hard to remember their personalities. But only due to "not having seen it in ages".

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Because? I'm seeing a lot of hate/liking but very little reasoning behind, well, anything. I don't expect anyone to like stuff, but could you please at least properly explain your reasons? There's no reason to bash stuff, but there's reason to constructively criticize it instead.

Or to put it simply; You're not giving me actual reasons why I should dislike or agree with your assessment of OO. And even though it's the butt of Power Rangers jokes these days, this is a intellectual conversation, not just a joke about the season. I'm actually asking for legitimate reasons here, not bashing or super vague answers. Please actually elaborate without pointless bashing. Because I barely can see how your point holds up. Details, man, details.

edited 2nd Dec '14 9:45:52 PM by Irene

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So I haven't watched Power Rangers since Mighty Morphin', but I got the Megazord 3-pack on Black Friday. $50 for the Legendary Megazord, Q-Rex, and Falcon Turbozord was a great deal. And bonus, they were compatible with my Legacy Megazord and Dragonzord.

Really fun toys. Q-Rex is my favorite.

I like the little Keys. Like having a free minifigure. I just wish they weren't simply three Red Rangers.

edited 4th Dec '14 11:51:45 AM by Larkmarn

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Jason David Frank just challenged CM Punk to a fight.

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We, since I enjoyed RPM a lot, I figured I'd watch Jungle Fury since I'd heard that one was good too. So far me likey . I think RJ and Fran are my favourite characters, though I also really like Casey (his actor is pretty solid IMO)

I do get a good chuckle over seeing Bede Skinner fight with his Kiwi accent as Jarrod/Dai Shi though. He's lucky that his voice is distorted (pitch lowered) in post. Makes it harder to notice.

"If I reach for the stars, you can't hold me back"

So does anyone know if there are plans for Dino Charge to include some of the Kyuruger characters who got less screentime, like the Cyan Ranger?

Does anyone know if there's a concrete date for when DC will actually premiere?

February 7th.

Nick has the official site up.

First four episode titles and summaries for Dino Charge

http://cabletvt.powerrangermail.net/index.php/topic,5753.msg15475.html

edited 18th Jan '15 4:55:12 AM by Zarius

I find it interesting that the Tenga minions of Mighty Morphin Season 3 were obviously based on Tengu, a yokai. That and the ninja outfits showed that the staff was at least somewhat inspired by Kakuranger.

edited 27th Jan '15 1:08:22 PM by DS9guy

This might just be me but it seems that every Ranger season with civilian vehicle Zords was poorly received or just not as well liked as other seasons?

Turbo nearly destroyed the franchise Lightspeed Rescue was badly received when it first hit and even to this day I think Carter and Ryan are the only Rangers from that season who have fans. Overdrive actually beats out Turbo for worst seasons for some and its character seem to have a bigger hatedom.

RPM apparently avoided this though that was the writers wanting to go out with a bang like with In Space.

I dunno, I've always been a huge fan of Lightspeed Rescue.

S.P.D. sort of a middle ground, not considered the best but still appreciated. But that's the same thing with Lightspeed Rescue, the villains were considered sub par and Carter (before Linkara's review) was considered to be bland, but the core premise and supporting cast makes it highly watchable.

The three weakest seasons tend to be labeled as Turbo, Wild Force and Operation Overdrive. They tend to alternate vehicle vs. animal based zords every year, so it's not suddenly a trend anyway.

So, yeah, Dinocharge's premiere was uploaded to Nick.com and there's a lot of squeeing about it from the fandom thus far. I'm watching clips on Youtube and it's really lively and fun, with a healthy mix of clever'n'corny humor and well paced advancement of plot. Poisandra and Sledge are definitely the new Rita and Zedd

edited 30th Jan '15 5:05:20 AM by Zarius

I honestly think RPM only survived because it was both self-deprecating (yes guys we know are Zords have anime eyes har har)and well-focused - it knew it'\s strength was in its characters and followed accordingly. I mean, I really loved the fighting and zord battles in Jungle Fury, but I watched RPM for Dr.K and Flynn (and Ziggy, but Flynn is probabaly my favourite RPM ranger and Dr.K my favourite PR character period).

It's all about knowing where the good stuff is in your show.

Lightspeed? Meh villains, but they ZORDS WITH GATTLING GUNS. And yes, I admit Linkara got me to like Carter more.

On a completely random note, does anyone else want a fic with all the Commander mentors? Kruger, Colonal Truman, Captain Mitchell, etc?

I t would be fun just have them all at a bar swapping stories XD

"If I reach for the stars, you can't hold me back"

What are you guys' thoughts on Amit Bhaumik's "Hexagon" idea for Power Rangers?

http://powerrangers.wikia.com/wiki/Hexagon

[QUOTE] The unused Hexagon plan, as it has come to be called, revolved around the idea of an umbrella organization unifying most of the various Power Ranger teams that have been seen over the years. The name Hexagon came from the idea that the base of operations for the season's Power Rangers would be a giant building like the Pentagon, except with six sides to symbolize the number of Power Rangers on most teams. It was conceived as a much larger version of Zordon's Command Center except with its location and purpose known to the public. An impregnable fortress staffed by hundreds, if not thousands, and far too well-defended for any of the villains of the Power Rangers universe to try attacking.

The power dynamic typically seen between heroes and villains in the show would be flipped for this season. Instead of an invasion of a vast army of evil against a few heroes operating in secret, this time the good guys would have the apparent advantage in terms of numbers and infrastructure.[QUOTE]

I'm of two minds myself. On the one hand past and current Rangers working together is a dream come true. The civil war, however, has me scratching my head and a lot of superhero vs superhero fights aren't really done well (see Marvel's Civil War for the ur example). All in all, an interesting idea, but what we got instead was still cool.

I like SPD a lot but I think a lot if it is that the characters really carried it. The writing wasn't great and was kind of inconsistent but the actors were really good, I felt.

I've heard second hand information about the Ranger League, didn't know it had such extensive notes on What Could Have Been.

It's a very fascinating idea, as they note it was thought of a few years before Marvel's Civil War, but being a live action television show means it would never actually come to fruition because it would be a logistics nightmare. It would cost at least two to three times as much as a regular season, too many characters and a disjointed plot. Power Rangers thrives on conflict between good vs evil and to have the conflict be about the infighting between Ranger teams and the Big Bad turns out to be a Knight Templar on the good guys side makes the fighting philosophical rather than destructive.