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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#13401: May 3rd 2016 at 11:23:20 PM

I hope James sticks around next season. He is infinitely more enjoyable to watch than Lincoln.

DarthSion Statement: All meatbags must die from Slokovia Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Statement: All meatbags must die
#13402: May 4th 2016 at 5:46:38 AM

wild mass guessJames will do a heel face turn and become Ghost Rider after signing a deal with the devil played by Nicholas Cage

Cut off one head 2 more shall take it's place! Hail Hydra
Cross Since: Aug, 2012
#13403: May 4th 2016 at 9:01:33 AM

Not see how Daisy's blood is a better solution.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#13404: May 4th 2016 at 9:06:14 AM

Because it's fresher maybe.

Hive has been alive for years, jumping from body to body.

The blood Daisy has in her is only three years old, and she was already an inhuman. Maybe it'll be more viable.

I find it odd that the part of him that's Ward didn't remember that that had happened. Or maybe he didn't want to risk her by trying something like that. Because when you think about it, he should have tried that from the start.

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Cross Since: Aug, 2012
#13405: May 4th 2016 at 9:12:30 AM

Daisy went through terragenesis after that happen. Even if the Kree blood was still in her system, wouldn't it be altered as well?

Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Ace Pilot
#13406: May 4th 2016 at 9:53:42 AM

The major difference between the two is that hive is inside a corpse and Daisy is a living breathing body. Though how well her blood might work is a good question.

They also might need more blood at some point.

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#13407: May 4th 2016 at 10:50:38 AM

I thought it was really funny that Hive was upset at Daisy when he killed his Kree Reaper on purpose.

Cross Since: Aug, 2012
#13408: May 4th 2016 at 11:13:55 AM

Going by the conversations they had only Daisy was suppose to keep her's alive, though it would have been nice to have the spare.

Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Ace Pilot
#13409: May 4th 2016 at 11:37:15 AM

I believe that was the plan also, but that generally is why one keeps a spare. So you are not back to square one if something goes wrong.

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
Izeinsummer Since: Jan, 2015
#13410: May 4th 2016 at 2:43:50 PM

Well, Hive's superpower isn't.. exactly well suited for non-fatal attacks.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#13411: May 4th 2016 at 11:03:17 PM

Man, they are really tying everything together. They are taking a plot point from the first season — Skye getting injected with Kree blood! — and using it as a bigger plot point in the third season. Now that either takes some planning or is some amazing use of continuity.

...dude, this is totally not the first TV show to do this.

That said, I was surprised they brought the Kree Blood transfusion back into the plot.

edited 4th May '16 11:03:53 PM by FOFD

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#13412: May 4th 2016 at 11:46:57 PM

Nothing is new under the sun. But it is still very rare that a show has such an intricate plot in which details from the first season are still important way later.

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#13413: May 5th 2016 at 12:01:44 AM

But it is still very rare that a show has such an intricate plot in which details from the first season are still important way later.

That's...

Lost, Person of Interest, Fringe, Boy Meets World, Weeds, Full House, Battlestar Galactica, Farscape, Doctor Who, Sherlock, Sliders, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Breaking Bad, I can go on. tongue

Come to think of it, Hive reminds me of Flocke, character and abilitywise:

  • Brought back from the dead.
  • Brought because the actor was too good to kill off.
  • Bizarre, supernatural powers.
  • Immune to bullets.

Main difference being Flocke was an Evil Counterpart and Squid Ward is an... evil-er counterpart?

edited 5th May '16 12:28:08 AM by FOFD

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#13414: May 5th 2016 at 2:21:29 AM

[up] Most of the show you mentioned have call-backs. That is NOT the same as picking up a plot threat from way past and letting it have an impact way later.

32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#13415: May 5th 2016 at 4:42:58 AM

So the next episode has Civil War spoilers?

I guess I'd better see that before next week then...

"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome Rob
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#13416: May 5th 2016 at 7:51:14 AM

Most of the show you mentioned have call-backs. That is NOT the same as picking up a plot threat from way past and letting it have an impact way later.

Look, I can pretty much assure you that's not the case with most of those and list out how those aren't just Call-Back's. Every show that has a Myth Arc across seasons generally has to bring back a plot point from an earlier season.

The Kree Blood could easily have been forgotten, just like Quinn and the Gravitonium, which had far more precedent for coming up again since it would've introduced an existing villain. I'm surprised it was used again, but I wouldn't say AOS is ingeniously-written because of it. The show's ingenuity, if any, is the fantastic baiting-and-switching of the Big Bad's each season.

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#13417: May 5th 2016 at 7:57:26 AM

(see also 24tongue)

There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.
Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Ace Pilot
#13418: May 5th 2016 at 8:04:52 AM

I would it exactly call gravitron since this is a character that regular agents probably won't be able to handle. If earth's mightiest heroes is anything to go by it required Iron Man, wasp, Thor, the Hulk, Ant Man to defeat him.

I could imagine him being where he is a few years before a series of events leads to his escape and seeking those that trapped him.

"When I offered to make Norea my third back-up girlfriend she just glared at me and started throwing things at me.." Renee Costa
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#13419: May 5th 2016 at 10:05:12 AM

I will check if there are any Civil War spoilers and post my judgement here.

Concerning Graviton: I think all the Inhumans together could handle him. Perfect end-villain for season 4.

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#13420: May 5th 2016 at 11:35:37 AM

Oh man, I won't be able to see CW until Saturday or Sunday. I'll be disowning this thread just in case something slips through spoiler tags.

Crow: There's a plot?
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#13421: May 5th 2016 at 12:10:37 PM

Okay, those who want to avoid the threat, feel free to pm and ask me if the episode is safe to watch.

NotSoBadassLongcoat The Showrunner of Dzwiedz 24 from People's Democratic Republic of Badassia (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Puppy love
The Showrunner of Dzwiedz 24
#13422: May 5th 2016 at 12:52:30 PM

Fridge Logic: did anyone even had the idea to check if a splinter bomb works on Hive? Worst case scenario, he'd end up as two handfuls of live bait in boots.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#13423: May 5th 2016 at 1:17:54 PM

Aren't the splinter bombs made from the Diviner? He'd be immune as an Inhuman. Of course, that leads to the question of why the Kree would design the Diviners to affect them as well.

Izeinsummer Since: Jan, 2015
#13424: May 5th 2016 at 1:33:21 PM

The diviners were a security protocol to prevent unauthorized access to the terrigen - And given the kree were working on neolithic human tribes, it wasn't human unauthorized access they wanted to stop. The Kree reapers were kind of fridge horror on reflection. So they just went into stasis around a primitive world on the ass end of the galaxy... just in case someone might pull the fire alarm? And if noone ever did, they'd just float there until the machines keeping them in stasis broke or the local primitives reached the stage of going through all the floating crap in the system with a fine comb / a mining ship? Talk about jumping into the future blind.

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#13425: May 5th 2016 at 3:34:02 PM

Was anyone else seriously reminded of Steve vs Bucky during Mack vs Daisy?

Crow: There's a plot?

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