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Since we've gotten told to stop talking generally about religion twice in the Homosexuality and Religion thread and were told that, if we want to talk generally about religion, we need to make a new thread, I have made a new thread.

Full disclosure: I am an agnostic atheist and anti-theist, but I'm very interested in theology and religion.

Mod Edit: All right, there are a couple of ground rules here:

  • This is not a thread for mindless bashing of religion or of atheism/agnosticism etc. All view points are welcome here. Let's have a civil debate.
  • Religion is a volatile subject. Please don't post here if you can't manage a civil discussion with viewpoints you disagree with. There will be no tolerance for people who can't keep the tone light hearted.
  • There is no one true answer for this thread. Don't try to force out opposing voices.

edited 9th Feb '14 1:01:31 PM by Madrugada

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#10177: Jul 2nd 2015 at 8:45:51 PM

I'll take it. But ain't payin' no tax.

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#10178: Jul 2nd 2015 at 8:47:20 PM

[up][up]Or that Christians are Metal as fuck

edited 2nd Jul '15 8:47:32 PM by AngelusNox

Inter arma enim silent leges
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#10179: Jul 2nd 2015 at 9:43:43 PM

"Ever since I was a kid, I always thought of the Holy Trinity as three fingers in a hand. Appearance-wise seperate, but in reality all part of the same body part. Controlled by one brain."

Thing is, a finger shouldnt be sacrifing itself to his other finger, this is just....weird.

In fact I repeat my question Again: where is for you the most weird thing you find out in your religion, you know the kind of thing that can be only understand in context, In my case it will be the angels in ezekiel....they are just...reaaaaaally weird.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#10180: Jul 2nd 2015 at 9:58:34 PM

Thing is, a finger shouldnt be sacrifing itself to his other finger, this is just....weird.

You're forgetting the finger's resurrection!tongue

edited 2nd Jul '15 9:58:51 PM by Quag15

Elfive Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#10181: Jul 3rd 2015 at 2:33:25 AM

Ok, admittedly in mathematics when one infinity is bigger than another it is usually infinitely bigger. (integers vs real numbers, for example, because there's an infinite number of decimals between each integer.)

So the trinity thing would work if it was multiplicative rather than additive, I think.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#10182: Jul 3rd 2015 at 10:43:10 AM

[up][up]So...god give the finger to the world in order to save them....god that was so awfull evil grinevil grinevil grin

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#10183: Jul 3rd 2015 at 11:20:44 AM

[up][up][up]Yeah, the finger grew back! Which makes God...a lizard?

edited 3rd Jul '15 11:21:16 AM by tricksterson

Trump delenda est
Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#10184: Jul 3rd 2015 at 12:28:36 PM

So...god give the finger to the world in order to save them....god that was so awfull evil evil grinevil grinevil grin

Indeed it was.tongue

[up]A lizard? Pfff, don't insult the awesomeness of God with the name of a reptile.tongue

edited 3rd Jul '15 12:30:02 PM by Quag15

AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#10185: Jul 3rd 2015 at 12:37:19 PM

[up][up]No points for guessing which finger grew back

edited 3rd Jul '15 12:37:35 PM by AngelusNox

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The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#10186: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:44:21 PM

<sigh> I'm going to refrain from making a fuss about all this blasphemy that I'm seeing here, since I'm fairly sure you already know what you're saying is blasphemous and may in fact be doing it on purpose. Just know that I'm of the camp that doesn't condone blasphemy even in a jesting manner; insulting God is still insulting God, regardless of actual intention.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#10187: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:52:19 PM

[up]I understand and I'll apologize from my end. It's just that there's often a stereotype that, for example, Catholics are deadly serious and don't want to joke about things related to religion and specifically their own side, and I'm kinda the opposite of that (and I went through all the motions, so I know my stuff). One can be a firm believer but still get to joke a bit. The problem, to me, is folks who joke about things without having researched things properly or having entered in contact with folks of [insert religion here].

Which is why Family Guy sucks.

[up][up]Got there before you.tongue

edited 3rd Jul '15 1:55:02 PM by Quag15

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Lost in Space
#10188: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:54:53 PM

There are competing priorities. Nothing should be above mockery, but mockery has an implicit responsibility to be at least somewhat informed. I don't believe in blasphemy at all, though; religions should not get preferential treatment when it comes to what speech is permitted.

edited 3rd Jul '15 1:55:12 PM by Fighteer

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#10189: Jul 3rd 2015 at 1:56:37 PM

Most Christians dont consider joking about God to be blasphemy.

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
Corvidae It's a bird. from Somewhere Else Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
DeMarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
#10192: Jul 3rd 2015 at 2:06:51 PM

Both Russia and Germany put you in prison for blasphemy? Canada fines you? What??

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#10193: Jul 3rd 2015 at 2:12:00 PM

I'm pretty sure that Canadian law at least is long outdated and hasn't been used in years (last case was 1936). Any charges would easily be defeated as Charter of Rights and Freedoms violations.

Reading more into it, the Canadian blasphemy law has effectively evolved into a hate speech law, it is perfectly legal to criticize religion in good faith for or any other reason if you aren't harassing or threatening people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemous_libel#Canada

On the subject, Iceland just decriminalized blasphemy. http://m.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33378778

edited 3rd Jul '15 2:21:49 PM by Rationalinsanity

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#10194: Jul 3rd 2015 at 2:39:45 PM

blasphemy is little disrespectful towards religions if it's done intentionally,

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majoraoftime Immanentizing the eschaton from UTC -3:00 Since: Jun, 2009
Immanentizing the eschaton
#10195: Jul 3rd 2015 at 2:52:55 PM

I think God can take a little jesting and japing.

Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#10196: Jul 3rd 2015 at 2:58:49 PM

[up]This. It won't be us mere mortals who will cause damage to God.

Now, when it comes to mocking religious, agnostic or atheist people (and I do emphasize people, regardless of what they believe or not believe in), the matter is less clear-cut across the world...

edited 3rd Jul '15 3:00:22 PM by Quag15

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#10197: Jul 3rd 2015 at 3:00:25 PM

[up][up]

I think, the thing is, you really should not insult the omnipotent creator.

He can take a joke, sure, but don't outright insult him.

God seems to be rather protective of his name.

edited 3rd Jul '15 3:01:23 PM by Protagonist506

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Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#10198: Jul 3rd 2015 at 3:03:21 PM

As with most things, it depends on the joke and its context, as well as the person who says it. George Carlin can make a joke about God or religiously-related stuff (such as the confession) work, for example (him having been Raised Catholic and all).

(I can remove the link, if anyone feels uncomfortable)

edited 3rd Jul '15 3:12:51 PM by Quag15

Corvidae It's a bird. from Somewhere Else Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
It's a bird.
#10199: Jul 3rd 2015 at 3:16:54 PM

[up][up] Not to be needlessly annoying or anything, but... why does being (allegedly) omnipotent make an entity less deserving of criticism?

Still a great "screw depression" song even after seven years.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#10200: Jul 3rd 2015 at 3:20:15 PM

Thing is,people interpret through scripture that he takes offence..

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