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JMQwilleran Let's Hop to It! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#1: Apr 1st 2013 at 10:51:55 PM

The current image is a poster for a game, with a number of dates slashed out, and underneath them, the phrase "We'll see..." Underneath is the caption "November 2008." Therefore, the item in question is not an example of Development Hell, but rather something that was Saved from Development Hell. So the image and caption actually fit the subtrope, rather than the trope itself. Can we get a different image here, something that represents something that actually is in Development Hell?

ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#2: Apr 1st 2013 at 11:16:09 PM

I disagree. Picture was made when the work in question was squarely in this trope, and illustrates it effectively. The caption illustrates that it was ultimately saved from it, yes, but that doesn't mean it wasn't an example.

Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#3: Apr 2nd 2013 at 12:58:39 AM

If something is an example of Saved from Development Hell, it's also an example of Development Hell, since that's the supertrope. It doesn't require things to still be in Development Hell. Thus, it's still an example. It fits better on Saved from Development Hell, but that doesn't mean it doesn't fit here.

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#4: Apr 2nd 2013 at 1:14:44 AM

Okay, so let's remove the caption. The image is a decent illustration of dev hell (Keep Until Better Image Suggested, at least) and the caption doesn't add any to that.

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#5: Apr 2nd 2013 at 1:37:58 AM

I love the current image. Although it is an example of Saved from Development Hell, the image does not illustrate that, and it is only in the caption. I think the caption can stay since the image is clearly Development Hell and the caption is trivia.

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#6: Apr 2nd 2013 at 1:44:07 AM

Ditch the caption, keep the image.

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#7: Apr 2nd 2013 at 3:50:24 AM

I'm good to lose the caption. Its content can be moved to the Web Original section as an example.

edited 2nd Apr '13 3:51:49 AM by Willbyr

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#8: Apr 2nd 2013 at 5:53:57 AM

I, too, am in favor of keeping the image and removing the caption.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#9: Apr 2nd 2013 at 7:51:58 AM

+1 = -Caption

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#10: Apr 2nd 2013 at 8:13:44 AM

As the guy who added the caption, I don't particularly see how it detracts.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#12: Apr 2nd 2013 at 8:56:04 AM

It draws the focus towards Saved from Development Hell, rather than plainly Development Hell.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#13: Apr 2nd 2013 at 9:07:28 AM

I don't think that's a huge issue... could probably pothole the subtrope to point out that that's technically separate, though. Something like

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edited 2nd Apr '13 9:07:44 AM by ShadowHog

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#14: Apr 2nd 2013 at 9:17:12 AM

No, not a huge issue. I just think it's better without. There's also enough text in the image as it is.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#15: Apr 2nd 2013 at 9:22:06 AM

And I'd rather have a caption. We send enough images out without captions; I'd rather not get into the habit of pulling ones that just need slight fix-ups.

edited 2nd Apr '13 9:23:08 AM by ShadowHog

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#16: Apr 2nd 2013 at 9:32:54 AM

[up][up][up] I can live with that as a compromise.

edited 2nd Apr '13 9:33:08 AM by Willbyr

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#17: Apr 2nd 2013 at 9:33:46 AM

@13 is a compromise. I would pothole it to Sarcasm Mode, though.

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#18: Apr 2nd 2013 at 9:44:48 AM

On the contrary, I think we have too many images with a caption. All too often there's an image that illustrates the trope perfectly well on its own, and somebody feels compelled to caption it with an Incredibly Lame Pun, or a Captain Obvious statement, or something that contradicts the image. Generally speaking, an image without a caption is better, imho.

At any rate, it's no big deal either way, of course, but I think a simple majority in this thread would be a fine indication of whether or not to keep the caption.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#19: Apr 2nd 2013 at 9:50:05 AM

[up]Agreed. That goes especially for images with text in them. It often just feels redundant and adds clutter to the page.

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#20: Apr 2nd 2013 at 5:59:20 PM

I tweaked the caption. But I also agree that it probably doesn't need one in the first place....

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#22: Apr 23rd 2013 at 5:55:17 AM

Like I said before, I'm fine with the caption removed.

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#23: Apr 23rd 2013 at 6:06:25 AM

I'd much prefer to strike the caption and have the reference either moved to the Web Original folder as an example or taken to Saved from Development Hell.

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#24: Apr 23rd 2013 at 6:46:06 AM

Caption removed per the above comments.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#25: Apr 23rd 2013 at 7:24:59 AM

But I don't want the caption removed.

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