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I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to be looking at here. Would the last panel of this EGS make a better image?


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edited 1st May '13 7:59:44 PM by Willbyr

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#1: Mar 29th 2013 at 3:54:47 PM

I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to be looking at here. Would the last panel of this EGS make a better image?


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edited 1st May '13 7:59:44 PM by Willbyr

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#2: Mar 29th 2013 at 4:05:39 PM

It's kind of reverse (can cook better because he's currently female, rather than being able to cook as a symbol of femininity). However, it does bring the trope into play, as it connects the two, so I think it works.

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#3: Mar 29th 2013 at 4:07:41 PM

Where is the trope in that image?

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#4: Mar 29th 2013 at 4:40:38 PM

I'm not sure if the character is serious that being hot makes her good at cooking but the trope is about how being a traditionalist grown woman makes her good at cooking. She's a housewife or the wife in The Three Faces of Eve. She's not too cute or hot/sexy. The current doesn't show the idea though so suggestions would be good.

Edit: What about Lois Lane or Rory Gilmore?

edited 29th Mar '13 5:01:10 PM by lexicon

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#5: Apr 10th 2013 at 8:08:33 AM

The current has two women, one with an eye patch and one with short hair. Other then the fact that they're in the kitchen they don't look especially feminine.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#6: Apr 10th 2013 at 8:50:56 AM

[up][up]Left Rory might work. I think the Lois is just too ditracting with her expression like that.

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helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#7: Apr 10th 2013 at 10:55:43 AM

Well, the trope is feminine women can cook, not just Holly Homemakers, so hopefully Tiana still counts. 1, 2, 3, 4. You'd probably have to cut the guys out of the picture, unless you think they help.

edited 10th Apr '13 10:55:51 AM by helterskelter

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#8: Apr 10th 2013 at 11:07:55 AM

[up]I like the two first. The male chefs help, since they bring a contrast to it, as well as adding a professional quality to what she's doing.

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#9: Apr 10th 2013 at 7:09:20 PM

I'd be fine with the one where she's holding the bowl. There's not supposed to be a professional quality to this. The page starts out, "By feminine we mean traditional domestically-focused wife-like roles," so basically it is Holly Homemakers.

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#10: Apr 10th 2013 at 7:13:16 PM

Any of the first three work for me, but I lean toward the bowl one based on [up].

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#11: Apr 10th 2013 at 8:44:57 PM

[up][up]By that I meant it's clear she can cook, and not just pretending to.

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#12: Apr 10th 2013 at 10:21:46 PM

I'd be okay with any of the images (although I think the one with the bowl looks nicest), but that's a pretty big stretch to assume anyone would think upon looking at the image. "Sure, the trope is called Feminine Women Can Cook and it's the page image and she's cooking, but she could be faking it!" No one is going to think that.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#13: Apr 10th 2013 at 10:49:30 PM

That's not what I said, though.

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#14: Apr 10th 2013 at 10:53:30 PM

Then what are you saying? I mean, I don't see the relevance of whether it proves she's not pretending to cook unless it relates to whomever is looking at the picture.

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#15: Apr 10th 2013 at 11:00:41 PM

I didn't say "proving" either. I said it makes it clear. It makes it more obvious.

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#16: Apr 10th 2013 at 11:08:14 PM

[up] Yes, but that implies there's actually a question that it isn't completely obvious.

No matter what, you're saying there's a chance someone might actually think this image is showing a girl who cannot cook and is faking it, in spite of all evidence.

I'm not trying to be confrontational, but that's a really weak reason.

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#17: Apr 11th 2013 at 3:40:03 AM

If you're not being confrontational, try arguing about something that actually matters, instead of minor technicalities based on assumptions on your side.

My only point was that it was a point in favour of those images. Actually, I realise I only explained part of it. I said it brought a professional quality to what she was doing, but that's only a matter of how good it is, not the nature of it. It doesn't bring any sense that she's a professional herself, but rather contrast against it, since she's different from the chefs. If it's not professional, it's probably domestic.

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#18: Apr 15th 2013 at 9:02:21 AM

Does anyone else have any other suggestions?

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#19: May 1st 2013 at 11:09:46 AM

Should we go with Tiana with the bowl in 7.3 then?

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#20: May 1st 2013 at 11:17:41 AM

I prefer 7.1.

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#21: May 1st 2013 at 3:13:09 PM

Go 7.3

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#22: May 1st 2013 at 4:14:16 PM

I also prefer 7.1.

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#24: May 1st 2013 at 8:58:38 PM

I don't really like the EGS one. It implies that this trope is about attractive women can cook (she clearly says "because I'm hot"), not just feminine women.


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