RWBY General Discussion

I think the amount of time they have to work with all that they have is the ultimate root of the problem, nah?

problem is if you move the salem scene to right before tyrian, you get the same complaints that people are putting forth with regard to renora's flashback happening right before the monster shows up, with the addition that it feels like an ass pull.

"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." Twitter

I wouldn't call it an asspull, but it would definitely feel poorly-placed and too sudden.

My larger question still remains how was Tryian even tracking Ruby in the first place? That wasn't addressed at all.

Yeah, maybe not right before. But closer to the event, than the very beginning of the season. Or at least show him tracking her here and there so I remember that he's a threat.

Well, there's two points there.

One is that this is a web series, so they choose the format. If they wanted to tell a story that needed more time per episode, then they should make longer episodes. They don't have to conform to a TV channel schedule or anything, so if they feel like any given episode needs to be longer, they can just do that.

Two is that if they're committed to a specific episode format (for whatever reason) then they should write to accomodate that. If they're writing stuff that would be great in half-hour chunks but they only have 15 minute episodes to work with, then that's bad writing because they're certainly aware of the format they're writing for and they should take that into account.

So I don't see "they're just struggling with the limits of their format" as a legitimate deflection of the pacing criticism.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

it's simple

tyrian goes into a city not too far from beacon and talks to the people to see if they saw a group of colorful teenagers and follows the breadcrumbs

"hey you see a group of colorful teenagers?"

"HOLY FUCK A SCORPION"

edited 23rd Jan '17 4:07:27 PM by EpicBleye

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edited 23rd Jan '17 4:38:31 PM by VutherA

Would that be Jaune or Ren?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!

I forgot my adjective at first.

BUT WHAT ABOUT SUN?

Please allow me to introduce myself, I am a man of wealth and taste. Nice to meet you, hope you can guess my name.

... wait, how is Ren "Apollo made flesh"?

He's not related in any way to the Sun

Did you mean Adonis?

edited 23rd Jan '17 5:15:42 PM by BlackSunNocturne

Apollo was also a bit of an ideal of male youth and beauty. I don't think it was a domain he was worshiped for or anything, but all the Greek statues speak for themselves.

"Hi, I'm looking for a group of wandering huntsmen led by girl in a red hood. Uses a big scythe rifle."

"Uhhh...."

"My town has a Grimm problem."

Native:......actually I will give you right on this one, if you see this episode again, you will feel RT have waaaaay more freedom to do stuff, which it feel they are presure byt whatever structure they just put on themselves

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i don't think the problem is being constricted to the medium, i think the problem is inexperience with the longer, dramatic format. miles' and kerry's resume is basically just Red vs Blue, which is gag based with story arcs that last no longer than 3 seasons. Ya, it's their jobs, so don't think I'm giving them a pass, but it makes sense to me why RWBY feels like it moves in fits and starts.

"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." Twitter

No, they can't "just do that". That takes time and money, which is why the series started out with episodes half the length they intended and why they need to do WOR episodes. Your second point is perfectly valid, but it's naive to say they can freely extend the episode length.

I think RWBY's biggest problem in pacing comes from emulating the Long Runner anime series, without actually having the episode count to match it. And by all means, criticize them for writing for something they can't actually produce. But it's not fair to pretend they could be producing that amount of content.

edited 23rd Jan '17 11:31:30 PM by Saiga

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I just noticed I haven't noticed anyone posting Matt The Mammoth Rider recaps. Has no one done that or did I just miss them?

He hasn't made any new ones since chapter 6.

"Please crush me with your heels Esdeath-sama!

Don't care about him either way, so no loss on my part.

Watch Symphogear

He detailed a lot of issues he had in his last one. Presumably, they're still problems ore even more stuff has come up.

That's a distortion of my point. I'm not saying that they can magically conjure up additional content for free, I'm saying that the "weekly 15 minute episodes" format was their choice. They could do half-hour episodes every two weeks. Or hour-long episodes once a month. Or release the entire season as one continuous movie once a year. Or any number of things in between.

Saying "they're constrained by having to make weekly 15 minute episodes" is silly because they don't have to make weekly 15 minute episodes, they chose to.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

I have no problem with episode and volume length. I've grown up on the standard British show format, which is that every series in a show has six thirty-minute episodes. RWBY having twelve fifteen-minute episodes per volume is the same length as a standard British show. The fact that it's managed four series' means that it's actually produced more content than many British shows (which are usually about two series' in length, unless they obtain the popularity of shows like Blackadder or Red Dwarf).

Setting things up is part of plot development. They're not separate things. it's the same for character exploration, which is also part of developing the plot.

edited 24th Jan '17 3:00:31 PM by Wyldchyld

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.

Yeah, I know that. Where did I say they should never do set up? There still exists a point where you're spending too much time on set up, when you don't need to.

Like for example. Oscar. You don't need to do several small scenes introducing him when they don't add anything more than what the first one did. Once or maybe twice is sufficient.

edited 24th Jan '17 4:28:52 PM by xanderiskander

The problem with criticizing the format in that way is that we don't know what causes them to do it in this way.Could be becasuse this is the quickest way to get E Ps out.Could be because of money.

I mean sure they could change way they release E Ps but then that may bring problems of its own.(The volume seeming even slower than it is for example)

Thing is,people are kinda impatient. If they're use to a particular time making them wait longer will not be well received.

Hell we received an example of this a short time before this Volume Begin. If I recall correctly FRIST members were going to get RWBY a week in advance instead of a day.People got upset and they backed off.

edited 24th Jan '17 4:42:44 PM by DeanCole