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InsanityPrelude Since: Aug, 2009
#226: Feb 27th 2013 at 11:07:36 AM

I admit I wasn't being hugely picky when I sorted these; it was meant to be a very rough preliminary thing. When I get back from town, I'll clear the blonds out.

troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#227: Feb 27th 2013 at 11:35:18 AM

I think if the Malfoys fall under anything it's either Blond Guys Are Evil or some reference to Hitler's Aryan supremacy that we don't have a trope for. And I'd be leaning toward the latter since there are Hitler parallels elsewhere in the series. (Also the one where the douchebag has greasy slicked-back hair, which is just part of Good Hair, Evil Hair at the moment I think.)

edited 27th Feb '13 11:36:30 AM by troacctid

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#228: Feb 27th 2013 at 11:37:01 AM

Plus, the Malfoys are pretty ordinary fellows apart from the whole stuck-up-supremacists thing. They aren't particularly creepy and they have plenty of empathy.

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#229: Feb 27th 2013 at 2:50:38 PM

Platinum blond is the closet thing to a real-life natural counterpart to fictional truly-white hair that doesn't involve old age or premature onset of hair-graying/whitening in young adults.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#230: Feb 27th 2013 at 3:11:59 PM

Yes, and because it's so natural it doesn't get the same connotations that white and grey hair do on someone too young to have them. Thus is doesn't belong on this trope. Prematurely white or grey is the most natural route this trope takes.

edited 27th Feb '13 3:12:34 PM by shimaspawn

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InsanityPrelude Since: Aug, 2009
#231: Feb 27th 2013 at 3:22:30 PM

The "actually pale blue or purple" examples should go too, right? I recall seeing several of those in the anime and videogame sections.

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#232: Feb 27th 2013 at 3:33:20 PM

Eh, those can be iffy. Sometimes anime does that as a substitute for white because pure white can be hard to animate. You'd have to look at pictures. Is it a stand in for white? Or is it clearly meant to be blue or purple. I know Toshiro in Bleach tends to end up with blue tinted hair, but it's meant to be white.

And sometimes people writing the examples end up wonking about the tint because some people obsess far more than they should.

edited 27th Feb '13 3:39:18 PM by shimaspawn

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#233: Feb 27th 2013 at 3:39:46 PM

Very light blues and purples might count so long as it's close and the personalities otherwise match up. Dilandau from Escaflowne is one of the earlier appearances of the trope, I think, and his hair sometimes looked slightly blue.

edited 27th Feb '13 3:39:51 PM by Arha

InsanityPrelude Since: Aug, 2009
#234: Feb 27th 2013 at 3:49:36 PM

Okay, ctrl+f'd "blue," "purple," and "aqua" and only one of them (Mikael, Tenshi Ni Narumon) doesn't appear to be animation!silver. Don't ask me why a guy with blatantly teal hair is on this page.

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#235: Feb 27th 2013 at 4:27:01 PM

Yeah, he doesn't fit. As for the animation silver ones, just remove the colour wonk. It confuses people about the trope.

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#236: Feb 27th 2013 at 8:20:58 PM

I don't know about counting prematurely white or gray hair. We would have to say what counts as premature. As long as the person doesn't have wrinkles? I think as long as the live-action character has white hair by supernatural means it would count. Then again if we take away the blondes from the list we have practically no live-action examples left anyway so it's not a huge deal.

I agree. Teal hair shaded black doesn't count. What is colour wonk? We are counting silver, aren't we?

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#237: Feb 27th 2013 at 8:23:46 PM

Colour wonk is when in an animated work, hair is tinted slightly from white or black because pure white and black are hard to animate. People then rail on about how their hair is really blue or purple or grey because those tints are used to make the hair look 3D.

Silver, very light grey, and white count.

edited 27th Feb '13 8:24:14 PM by shimaspawn

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#238: Feb 28th 2013 at 12:00:40 AM

Okay. So do we need that crowner? No one strongly objects to the suggested title and most people like it.

InsanityPrelude Since: Aug, 2009
#239: Feb 28th 2013 at 10:00:50 AM

Since there were no objections last time I brought it up, I'll go ahead and remove the worst Zero Context Examples and the non-examples (e.g. Darkrai).

Edit: Speaking of non-examples, what do we do with the Subversions/Exceptions section of the page?

edited 28th Feb '13 10:35:14 AM by InsanityPrelude

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#241: Mar 1st 2013 at 1:30:46 PM

I think if Fast Eddie looks at the inbound count on White-Haired Pretty Boy he would agree that it is better to turn it into a redirect than to cut it entirely.

edited 1st Mar '13 1:31:01 PM by Catbert

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#242: Mar 1st 2013 at 1:35:00 PM

Stats:

Main/WhiteHairedPrettyBoy found in: 2033 articles, excluding discussions.

Since January 1, 2012 this article has brought 2,875 people to the wiki from non-search engine links.

Support a redirect. Will we reuse the image?

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#243: Mar 1st 2013 at 3:25:22 PM

[up] I think we should; he looks suitably sinister.

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#244: Mar 1st 2013 at 3:31:53 PM

Still going to need some clean up to make sure the existing White-Haired Pretty Boy wicks work for the new White Hair, Black Heart destination.

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#245: Mar 1st 2013 at 3:33:51 PM

That is standard procedure when doing such changes. Assuming that I get time then, I'll do some work there.

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#246: Mar 1st 2013 at 4:41:09 PM

And if they don't, we can just redirect it to White-Haired Pretty Girl instead until we decide what to do with it. :/

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peccantis Since: Oct, 2010
#247: Mar 3rd 2013 at 9:43:55 AM

White-Haired Pretty Boy: cool (cold), elegant, possibly evil.

I'm pretty sure no WHPB has ever been unelegant or a spitfire personality. Or at least those wouldn't fit the archetype.

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#248: Mar 3rd 2013 at 9:55:13 AM

We can start calling it by it's new name. Are we ready to change the name and start changing the wicks?

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#249: Mar 3rd 2013 at 2:41:08 PM

I'd say so.

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#250: Mar 3rd 2013 at 9:24:26 PM

Good. I can help with the wicks. The easiest thing is taking away a Zero Context Example. I don't know how to change the title. We can use Insanity Prelude's sandbox for the examples on the page it's self. Do we want to change the description at all?


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