Hate for the Disney Sequels

If we can count TV series as sequels, Aladdin, Tarzan and even Hercules and Timon and Pumbaa hold up well. I'd go as far as saying, except the annoying Icarus, I like the Herc TV series better than the movie.

Haven't watched the Emperor's New School, though. I've always thought the Lilo and Stitch series was terrible. Buzz Lightyear was great, but it doesn't really count as a sequel, just a spinoff, since it wasn't even the same Buzz.

And of course The New Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh which holds up very well. Tale Spin isn't really a follow up series, but it uses some Jungle Book elements to good effect.

From what I heard Chip N Dale Rescue Rangers was originally to be a series for The Rescuers.

edited 16th Feb '13 5:58:02 PM by Psi001

Call it blasphemous but part of me actually prefers Bambi II to the first film, if just for the characterization given to the title character and the relationship between him and his father. Bambi is iconic, but in terms of own interest its one scene movie that outside that has some beautiful imagery, but a plot that just doesn't hold my attention all that much.

^^ Besides having a terrible moral-destroying character derailing premise, the Emperor's New Groove show wasn't that bad. The humor was often fairly decent.

I admit I prefer characterization over imagery (as much as I'd prefer both) plus Bambi II at least had higher budget animation than most other sequels. It was even released theatrically in some regions.

Kinda wished they'd kept with the proto name Bambi and The Great Prince though, it screams Sequelitis a lot less (and being a midquel, fits better chronologically anyway).

edited 16th Feb '13 7:19:57 PM by Psi001

The DTV Sequels suffers HEAVILY from Aesop Amnesia and Remember the New Guy?.

I rather enjoyed Mulan II. I found the story reasonably entertaining, and I thought on the whole the songs were good, with "A Girl Worth Fighting For (Reprise)" in particular being a funny twist on the original.

I thought the Lilo and Stitch sequels were okay. You got Stitch! which was the pilot for the TV show (which was also kind of fun, and crossed over with every other Disney show at the time) and Leroy and Stitch which was the finale for the show. The weird thing was that there was also Lilo and Stitch 2: Stitch has a glitch which doesn't fit with the TV show, but it isn't bad either. I got the impression there was a timeline split or something after the movie.

I personally love both the original peter pan movie and the sequel movie.

The lion king 1 1/2 was fun

haven't seen any other disney sequals

Most Disney movies are a Disnefication of something else. Take a basic story, strip out the "unfriendly" parts, add song and voices to things that do not talk.

Usually for the sequel they are now required to do all the writing themselves. Aladdin at least had 1000 more nights to work with but Mulan or Peter Pan?

Peter Pan had a seed to work with. The epilogue of the original story talks about Peter and Wendy's daughter, and her daughter, and so forth, and that could be interesting. Hell, I've considered doing one myself with the granddaughter. XD

Lion King 2 was good, even if it was a bit of a repeat of the last movie with some sprinkles thrown in nicely.

I enjoyed Bambi II and The little mermaid II as well.

Return of Jafar was alright, but I thought that King of Thieves was a better sequel.

Yeah, King of Thieves is the better one, but they're both not too bad.

It's been a while since I rewatched them, but I remember the Aladdin sequels being okay outside a couple of bad songs and probably having the worst animation budget out of all the sequels.

Return of Jafar was just a vehicle for the series (which was good) and happened to be a decent movie in itself. King of Thieves was actually, you know, a movie to begin with.

The animation was a bit wonky, but unless it looks absolutely hideous (or hilarious) I don't really care that much.

edited 18th Feb '13 8:30:19 PM by Pykrete

I didn't get to see the Lilo and Stitch sequels, but as I understand it, Stitch: The Movie was another vehicle for the TV series, while Lilo and Stitch 2: Stitch Has a Glitch was meant to be the "legitimate" sequel to the original movie. So, the latter is more like a Lilo and Stitch 1 1/2, right?

Lion King sequels: I used to hate Lion King 2, but seeing it again after about five years and knowing what it was based off of, I actually like it a lot not. And I've always fallen into the "Love it" section of the people who watched Lion King 1 1/2

Little Mermaid 2: I don't know why, but I just found the main character really annoying which made me hate the movie.

Bambi 2: I honestly don't remember a thing about this movie, except that his dad was in it and it was after his mom died.

Brother Bear 2: I thought it was ok, nothing I'd watch again but I didn't despise it.

Cinderella 2: THIS MOVIE WAS A SLAP IN THE FACE TO ME AS A SIX-YEAR-OLD WHO LOVED THE ORIGINAL! THEY COULDN'T EVEN THINK UP A PLOT FOR THE WHOLE MOVIE!

Cinderella 3: This redeemed Disney for the atrocity that was Cinderella 2. It had a good premise, and I've watched it multiple times, a medal of honor for Disney sequels in my eyes.

Was Cinderella 2 another one of those where they took three pilot episodes for a TV series and slapped them together? Where could a Cinderella TV series even go, anyway?

Could always go insane. That's always fun.

Heh, I figured Cinderella 3 was the "insane" place.

I don't think it was supposed to be a pilot for a series, at least I haven't seen anything about there maybe being a Cinderella series

RE: Lilo And Stitch: Y'all seem to be forgetting the So Meh It's Not Worth Mentioning DTV movie Leroy and Stitch, which...eh. It serves as a (sort of) series finale to the TV show, but it just never really worked for me.

While we're on the subject, anyone here seen any of the DTV movies based on Disney's television series? I know I've seen a couple of House Of Mouse ones that are really nothing more than compilation movies that provide the thinnest excuse plots for what can really only be said are 90 minute long episodes of the show, Mickey Mouse Works shorts and all.

Then there were a few Recess ones (and this is discounting the theatrically released Recess Schools Out, which I have always loved). There was Miracle on Third Street, which I think was just Principal Prickly and Miss Finster sitting in a car with episodes from the show shoehorned in between. Then there was some movie involving the kindergarten kids (All Growed Down, I think?) about to kill the main cast when, suddenly, archival footage calms them down! Also with one new short in it that, while cute, is riddled with continuity snarls. Finally, there's the single all original one, Taking the Fifth (Grade), which is really just three decent (if generic) episodes they made about the gang in fifth grade. I assume they were all planned for a post-School's Out season that never materialized.

edited 27th Feb '13 5:51:47 PM by 0dd1

I think there was a Tarzan movie that was just a TV compilation, while another movie told more of Tarzan's childhood...?