Mad Max: Fury Road

It's rather bad form to be told to end an incessant off-topic argument, and instead try and get in "the last word" ten paragraphs long.

edited 18th Apr '16 11:50:57 PM by Tuckerscreator

Bad form, defined by whom exactly? I haven't insulted anyone and provided proper arguments within my best ability (which I admit is still far from being actually good).

Last time I respond to you

Maybe it going for the old time anime feel is what they were trying to portray on screen? You can argue that it doesn't work in live-action, but it still succeeded in its goal.

So what makes it fail as a proper movie exactly? Heck, what exactly constitutes a proper movie in your opinion? It felt as though the Wachowskis were simply being experimental with the film in order to put the imagery of the anime on the screen. For that matter, while it may not have been a successfull experiment, at least the film tried to do something different with the medium. Whether that was good or bad is subjective.

That may be true, but Speed Racer's felt more heartfelt and sincere, rather than just being tacked on like in Bay and Emmerich's films.

So you base your criteria off of all those sources and I don't. I understand. And yeah, from a purely objective point of view, the film does have flaws. However, in my subjective opinion, Speed Racer succeeds. And there have been many film bloggers and critics in recent years that have come to appreciate the film as well.

I'd also like you to explain your criteria a bit more.

edited 19th Apr '16 12:09:50 AM by LDragon2

You want that to be your last response, and you are throwing questions.

But what the heck, this will be my last response to you as well.

It didn't. Succeeding a goal by itself means nothing, because a film's goal may be something like pissing off as many people possible, which SR didn't do a bad job in.

Simple. Either do well critically, do well commercially. If neither, at least break the even.

And there are many more film bloggers and critics who haven't changed their opinions, so I see a little value in that.

You are done responding to me, I'm done responding to you, at least on this matter for the time being, so moving on.

Man, I hope that Mad Max 5 doesn't take as long to make it. Since Fury Road did well, at least that guarantees much more critical and commercial support.

edited 19th Apr '16 12:14:17 AM by dRoy

Obviously these last two posts convinced the other side that you were right.

As for the sequel, I'd rather wait and get something as good as MMFR.

For. Fucks. Sake. This is the Mad Max: Fury Road topic. Not the Speed Racer and how shit or how brilliant it is topic. That's on another thread. Go there and argue.

Sometimes arguments do, sometimes they don't. That's they how argument works.

Actually, we were also consistently talking about Mad Max:Fury Road too. And you know, we ended this discussion already, so there's that.

Considering the director's age, if we wait that long we might not get another one. XP Hopefully he takes...I don't know, around 6 to 8 years at most.

Thankfully, unlike so many recent superhero movies Mad Max movies are self-contained, so even if FR is the last movie, it wouldn't be problematic.

Let's see, FR took so long to make because of so many hiccups in the development process, including but not limited to 9/11 and resulting American travel restrictions, American dollars collapsing against Australian, and Mel Gibson becoming...well, got too mad to play Max. Hopefully none of those hinders Miller as much as they used to.

Wasteland...

Man, I would love to see Jason Statham as the main villain.

edited 19th Apr '16 5:37:40 AM by dRoy

This wasn't an argument, this was a quotewar, which had absolutely nothing to do in this thread, or in the Speed Racer thread for that matter It was either a PM matter or something for a hypothetical "movies with racing cars in it" thread.

Also, on forums, the lengthier the argument, the smaller the chance for either side to correct its views. And yours was extremely long.

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Next Max should be Idris Elba, if the Bond producers are dumb enough not to pick him.

Ooh, Ooh! Found it!

Found a quite recent news on Mad Max: Wasteland.

So apparently George Miller prepared two scripts, one of which might include the backstory for Furiosa. Not sure if we need that, but I'm not complaining to see more of her.

You know, Mad Max and The Road Warrior were such different works. I wonder if we can expect that kind of dramatic shift in Wasteland as well.

I just watched the film.

I just have one question.

After watching this film, how many creators have thought,"Why bother making films at all anymore?"

This film has reached movie perfection. It cannot be improved upon. It's impossible. I have just gone through an impossible experience.

Holy shit.

Ain't such thing. Never has been, never will be.

But I will be damned if this movie is the closest thing from this decade so far.

edited 19th Apr '16 2:28:16 PM by dRoy

What a thrill. What a fucking thrill. God. And the quiet moments. The quiet moments were perfectly timed. And the whole energy of the film. Seriously, I can't emphasize the film part enough. This work of art isn't about writing, it isn't about the music, it's all put in service, all interlocking to generate spectacle. And what that spectacle does is get. our blood. pumping.

Seriously, though, this movie is doing to live action film what Steven Universe has done to animation, for me; everything else seems like it has been a waste of time, a prelude of something greater.

I CAN NEVER GO BACK!

edited 19th Apr '16 2:36:01 PM by TheHandle

One of us. One of us. One of us. ONE OF US!!!

Glad you enjoyed it, Handle. It's probably the best action movie of the last thirty years.

That's why it's such a great injustice that Spotlight won Best Picture over this. Don't get me wrong, it is a legitimately great movie, including some very important social commentary. But film in its nature is an integrated art form, in which screenplay is only a fraction of the complete picture (a BIG part of picture, but it's not the complete thing). A truly deserving "best picture" of the year must be something that utilize every aspects of a film into a masterpiece. If The Martian or The Revenant won over Fury Road, I wouldn't have complained.

Heh, my thoughts were actually the opposite. Mine were more like: "Maybe I could create my own chase scene one day imaginative enough that Miller might check it out and say: 'That's pretty cool'."

I've seen literally zero prominent/prolific creator who expressed that kind of sentiment.

Well they wouldn't say it out loud, obviously. Envy is inconfessable. They'd just retire. They would walk home with lowered eyes, secure in the knowledge that their life was a pleasant joke, and that a standard was set, that they could never hope to meet!

I respect your pluck!

I think Fury Road is pretty damn solid as action films go, but I think it plenty possible that future action films could improve upon it or match it in some way.

People have been saying that when The Dark Knight came out...before that The Matrix...before that Terminator 2: Judgement...it goes back for a long time, really.

Nah, I'll give you The Matrix, flawed though it was, because fuck if it wasn't stylish. But The Dark Knight was full of flaws and tried too hard to be "serious" (heh) and "important".

Terminator 2 remains fucking awesome.

Still, holy shit. What a film. It was like all of the feels of Fallout concentrated in two hours.

Saying something can't be topped in general is an insult to future generation of creators.

I'll give Fury Road about a decade before something comes up and tops it.

Yes. That seems about correct.

I was exaggerating under the influence of this fever dream of a film.

At least you recognize it, so there's that.

It's like when you tell your beloved that you'll love them forever. You believe it when you say it, from the bottom of your heart.

But, rationally, you know it can't be true.

The irrational part of me still believes this film will never be topped, because it is perfect, and complete, and awesome, and gross, and goregous, and horrible, and magnificent, and sad, and funny, and amazing, and I can't even.