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Why does nothing inspire me?:

 26 Twentington, Fri, 11th Jan '13 8:43:03 PM from Somewhere Relationship Status: Desperate
Mustelidae = awesome
Sometimes I get a feeling that I'm afraid of something, too. But I can't think of what it might be.
Windmill, windmill for the land / Is everybody in?

 27 JHM, Fri, 11th Jan '13 10:30:36 PM from Neither Here Nor There Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Thunder, Perfect Mind
[up] That your story will be boring, maybe, or that people won't get it. That you'll fail.

All I can say is: Just go and write. Let your characters bounce off each other until something happens. Don't know much about them? Let them speak for themselves and you'll find out more. It's really that easy; you're just making it harder than it is.
 28 Twentington, Thu, 4th Apr '13 11:54:47 PM from Somewhere Relationship Status: Desperate
Mustelidae = awesome
[up]I've tried. Still, all I get is sex and/or monkey cheese lolrandom.
Windmill, windmill for the land / Is everybody in?

I'm going to throw this out there: I'm guessing you're afraid that you'll put a whole lot of time, effort and thought into a story and have it turn out bad.

What you need to understand is that every writer writes crap at some point. You'll get better the more you write. "Practice makes perfect" and all that. If you write something and it turns out bad, you can always rewrite it. It's no big deal.

My advice would be to try to decide what kind of feel your story will have: determine the genre, tone and pace. You need to give yourself some kind of guideline to keep you on track so your story doesn't become something you don't want it to become. Then write an outline of the three acts. Add details to the outline like "what would need to happen in order for event A to happen" and "how do you get from event A to event C".

If you can't come-up with a basic plot outline then maybe you should write something else as practice. Like really short stories or dialogue or fan fiction.

And remember: inspiration isn't everything. Sometime-in fact, a lot of the time-ideas won't just come to you. You got to form them and think them through. Writing can be hard work. "Genius is one percent inspiration, ninety-nine percent perspiration"

Also, if someone on this thread gives you advice, don't just say "I tried it and it doesn't work". Try it again but harder. Everyone in this thread has given some good advice that should help you.

edited 5th Apr '13 9:15:41 AM by WSM

 
 30 Crystal Glacia, Fri, 5th Apr '13 10:28:29 AM from Cedarpointland
Twentington, I have a question. What, exactly, constitutes 'lolrandom monkey cheese' to you?
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 31 Twentington, Fri, 5th Apr '13 8:15:04 PM from Somewhere Relationship Status: Desperate
Mustelidae = awesome
My advice would be to try to decide what kind of feel your story will have: determine the genre, tone and pace. You need to give yourself some kind of guideline to keep you on track so your story doesn't become something you don't want it to become. Then write an outline of the three acts. Add details to the outline like "what would need to happen in order for event A to happen" and "how do you get from event A to event C".

That's always where I get stuck. I'm like, "okay, I have the four siblings, two brothers and two sisters. Now what? What does this one do? Or that one, or that one, or that one?" I have super vague stuff like "okay, such and such adopted them. This one got married to this character." but I never know where to take it. What is their adoptive parent like? What is that character's wife like? Well, I have that the latter is a chubby girl who's very Type A and works in a restaurant with one of the sisters, but what does she do otherwise? What SHOULD she do?

Genre? Well, some slice of life, some cyberpunk, and some space opera minus the space. I think. But I'm familiar with absolutely none of those genres.

If you can't come-up with a basic plot outline then maybe you should write something else as practice. Like really short stories or dialogue or fan fiction.

My short stories always turn into rampant sex, which mutates and contrives to the point that no one could possibly find it enjoyable. Likewise my fan fiction.

What, exactly, constitutes 'lolrandom monkey cheese' to you?

Like, me getting bored and just writing something like "banana antidisestablishmentarianism fahrvergnügen I'd like to solve the puzzle" or leaning on the backslash key until the word processor window is filled.

edited 5th Apr '13 8:16:29 PM by Twentington

Windmill, windmill for the land / Is everybody in?

If all you can write is sex scenes, then I'd recommend that you just run with that, trying to force your inspiration is the worst thing I can think of doing. Just pump out those PWP's, be they kinky, porny, sexist, poorly written or just plain cracky. Just write what ever comes to mind until you stop, no one says you have to publish it. Sometimes you just need to flush things out your system until you can move on to something else. There's nothing wrong with a little PWP and who knows, good ideas may come of it.

edited 5th Apr '13 8:45:39 PM by Lockedbox

 33 Crystal Glacia, Fri, 5th Apr '13 8:42:59 PM from Cedarpointland
[up][up] Okay, that clears things up.

I think I've said this to you before, but you can't take a character and build them a story unless you know what they want. Desire is the base of almost every plot ever, from the small and simple to the large and sweeping. Sure, you can take a collection of personality traits, relationships, likes, and dislikes, combine it with a backstory and family, and call it a character all you want, but you're not going to get much out of them. Everybody at every point in their life wants something, even if it's as basic as making it through the day or not dying. Desire is the driving force of not only fiction, but life.

Until you realize that fact, you will be getting no plots out of anything you create.

In fact, even in that 'plotless' smut you seem so eager to leave behind, it's still driven by somebody wanting something.

edited 5th Apr '13 8:47:50 PM by CrystalGlacia

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 34 Wolf 1066, Sat, 6th Apr '13 3:41:12 AM from New Zealand Relationship Status: In my bunk
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Write a story about somebody who wants to write a meaningful novel (the desire) but can't work out what to do with the characters he's created and everything he tries to write turns into rampant sex or lolrandom monkey cheese (the conflict).

How it's resolved - if it's resolved all, doesn't matter, he doesn't have to succeed in his quest, just explore his desires, frustrations etc as he strives against the internal problem.
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 35 Twentington, Mon, 6th May '13 7:29:17 PM from Somewhere Relationship Status: Desperate
Mustelidae = awesome
Maybe it's my setting that's not working. I wanted to go a little Post Cyber Punk, but so far, all I have them doing is just ordinary stuff. They go to the store, they work, they play instruments in their spare time, only it's future-y somehow.

And that just doesn't seem like enough. It seems BORING. I can't seem to find any place to fit in the cyberpunk-y elements.
Windmill, windmill for the land / Is everybody in?

 36 Ars Thaumaturgis, Mon, 6th May '13 8:20:34 PM Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Have you tried starting with some sort of incident or problem and working from there, picking up the characters as you go?

For example, you're using cyberpunk, so let's start by picking a technology: cerebral implants, intended for use in accessing an expanded internet, for example. Now, let's do something nasty to it: an explosion occurs in a research facility, specifically in the department that handles implant research. The explosion damages an experimental device intended for upgraded communication with implants; the malfunctioning device has connected to the implants of the researchers who were in the lab at the time of the accident, and, being faulty, wiped their minds almost entirely clean — and left them with nothing but ever-building rage in what remains of their consciousnesses.

Worse, any implant brought near to any so afflicted automatically connects to their implant, and causes the glitch to affect them, spreading the mind-ravaging horror.

So, we now have a problem in our setting. Then next step is to think about how are people going to react: What will those in the facility do? Will there be any official response? Who will get sent in, if anyone — or will someone just nuke the place? Is there anything in the facility that might help?

 37 Twentington, Mon, 6th May '13 10:49:23 PM from Somewhere Relationship Status: Desperate
Mustelidae = awesome
I don't know. What SHOULD they do?

edited 6th May '13 10:51:59 PM by Twentington

Windmill, windmill for the land / Is everybody in?

 38 Oh So Into Cats, Tue, 7th May '13 1:44:24 AM from The Sand Wastes Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with a post cyber punk slice of life story.
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 39 Wolf 1066, Tue, 7th May '13 2:56:18 AM from New Zealand Relationship Status: In my bunk
Wolf1066
Since it's bound to be different to the lives we're used to.

Just finding out how they shop, what things are and aren't available, who/what is hanging around if they actually go to a physical store rather than buy online...

Conflict could be as simple as wanting to buy some particular thing and it being out of stock at their preferred place. We could get to see something of the area while they try to find some place that does have it.
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