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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3651: Jul 28th 2017 at 1:16:06 PM

The main thing to talk about here would be solar eclipses...

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#3652: Jul 28th 2017 at 6:18:49 PM

It belongs in World Building but "Like, would the laser beam be negatively affected by transition from the vacuum of outer space to Earth's atmosphere (which naturally gets denser as it approaches sea level)?"

The short answer is yes.

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#3654: Jul 28th 2017 at 8:03:33 PM

Wow seriously cool.

Who watches the watchmen?
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#3656: Jul 29th 2017 at 6:23:29 AM

@Marq for space weaponry, there's this (Sci-Fi Weapons, Vehicles, and Equipment) thread. It's far more focused than the worldbuilding thread.

edited 29th Jul '17 6:24:13 AM by CenturyEye

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#3657: Jul 29th 2017 at 6:47:00 AM

Yeah, I had already found that thread and posted my question in it, if you haven't noticed. It's the very first post in the page you linked to, even.

Here's a more relevant question: Is it possible to have a planet that is much bigger than Earth (say, radius is 10 times bigger), but its surface gravity is barely different from Earth's?

edited 29th Jul '17 6:47:18 AM by MarqFJA

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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#3658: Jul 29th 2017 at 6:52:01 AM

That's possible, certainly. Gravity is a function of mass and distance, so you can finagle those numbers until you come up with something that works. How likely it is for such a planet to actually exist is a different question entirely; we don't really know enough about exoplanets to make that sort of judgement.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3659: Jul 29th 2017 at 7:09:43 AM

A tenth of the density of Earth (if you replace the mass in Newton's gravity formula with density*volume of a sphere, you obtain g~d) is odd, especially for non-gas planet. A fifth or a quarter implies a poorly compacted iron-free planet and is more plausible.

If it's for a story a planet containing large quantities of negative mass would have the desired low density, and a readily available Plot Device since negative mass is needed for warp drives and stable-ish wormholes.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#3661: Jul 29th 2017 at 7:19:22 PM

surprised"...but the membranes our biology uses simply wouldn’t work in the cryogenic methane seas of Titan. (They’d be far too rigid, and water-loving/water-repelling bits would have to be reversed.) So, what could cells on Titan look like? Two years back, researchers at Cornell University used chemical models to attempt to answer that very question. Through those models, they produced a functional cell membrane that remained stable and flexible at incredibly low temperatures, using none other than C 2 H 3 CN, or vinyl cyanide."

Guess what was just found in significant quantities on Titan?

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#3662: Jul 29th 2017 at 7:32:30 PM

De Marquis:

Seems bang on from the article.

Relevant part.

A new scientific paper supports the idea that life might exist on Titan, but that it would be nothing like life as we know it. After studying spectroscopic data collected by the Atacama Large Millimeter/sub millimeter Array (ALMA) in northern Chile, researchers are now reporting that Titan’s atmosphere is rife with vinyl cyanide, a molecule that could, in theory, form “cell-like” membranes under the moon’s unique environmental conditions.

edited 29th Jul '17 7:32:36 PM by TuefelHundenIV

Who watches the watchmen?
DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#3663: Jul 30th 2017 at 6:52:07 AM

The description of Titan's environment reminds me of the old Poul Anderson story Call Me Joe, about colonizing Jupiter.

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#3664: Jul 30th 2017 at 7:11:16 PM

Don’t get scammed — Safe, NASA-approved eclipse glasses and where to snag a pair

Without proper eclipse glasses, a glance at the sun during the total solar eclipse this August could lead to potentially dangerous injuries.

» RELATED: The ultimate guide to the once-in-a-lifetime total solar eclipse this August

But with all the hype surrounding the Great American Eclipse on Aug. 21, a quick Google search for eclipse glasses shows a number of retailers selling counterfeit eclipse eyewear.

NASA recommends four certified manufacturers that meet the ISO 12312-2 international standard for eye and face protection.

» RELATED: A solar eclipse can blind you — how to stay safe during August’s Great American Eclipse

NASA-approved eclipse manufacturers:

Rainbow Symphony American Paper Optics Thousand Oaks Optical TSE 17

NASA also warns against using homemade filters, sunglasses or unfiltered cameras, telescopes, binoculars or other unfiltered devices when looking at a partially-eclipsed or un-eclipsed sun.

» RELATED: Your eyes will fry under normal sunglasses during 2017 eclipse, here’s why Where to get safe eclipse glasses or handheld solar viewers

Eclipse 2017.org offers a list of eclipse glasses sold in bulk (packs of three to 200) with net prices ranging between $1.08 to $3.90.

You can also purchase eclipse glasses at a variety of stores or sites, including at the official manufacturer’s website or at Amazon.com.

Official manufacturer prices:

Prices for Rainbow Symphony viewers and glasses start at 45 cents.

American Paper Optics sells its products in bulk, with the cheapest option being a pack of four eclipse glasses for $12.

Thousand Oaks also sells its products in bulk, with the cheapest options being a pack of 25 solar viewer cards or glasses for $35.

The price for a single pair of glasses from TSE 17 starts at 98 cents.

More about pricing, shipping and where to order eclipse glasses at eclipse2017.org.

Prices are subject to change.

» RELATED: Don’t let clouds ruin your solar eclipse view — Use these two maps to find clear skies near you

Where to get free eclipse glasses in metro Atlanta

More than 2 million pairs of eclipse glasses at nearly 5,000 libraries all over the nation will be given away in August to ensure viewers enjoy the much-anticipated total solar eclipse safely.

» RELATED: Get your free eclipse glasses at these metro Atlanta libraries in time for August’s rare total solar eclipse

[If you live in GA, the AJC has a list of participating libraries.]

» RELATED: This is the most accurate map of the Great American Eclipse’s path of totality to date

Don’t see your local library on the list? Simply reach out once August rolls around and ask if the location will be offering the free glasses.

While the AJC is specific to Atlanta, the Solar Eclipse is coming. Don't miss it and poke around local newspapers to see who's offering (reliable!) free protective wear. As noted several times above, it's rather important...

edited 30th Jul '17 7:11:42 PM by CenturyEye

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#3665: Jul 31st 2017 at 9:41:24 PM

A Kickstarter has launched in order to restore the Apollo Mission Control Center at Johnson Space Center.

They've already reached their $250,000 goal since starting on July 20th, but you still have until August 19th to donate.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#3666: Aug 1st 2017 at 7:27:56 PM

Back in the day, I was taught to never look directly at the Sun, no matter the filter. Using a pair of binoculars or a low power telescope and projecting the image on a piece of paper, which then presents you with a picture of the sun you can look at safely is better anyway, because it allows you to magnify the image.

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#3667: Aug 2nd 2017 at 2:55:43 AM

I'm weird; I've experienced two solar eclipses. And, each time... watching how insects, creatures and people reacted to the eclipse was more interesting than watching the moon block the sun.

Seeing how confused bees and butterflies react to the change is worth it. smile

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#3668: Aug 2nd 2017 at 2:57:57 AM

I dunno, I've never been all that impressed with eclipses. An eclipse is just a really big shadow.

edited 2nd Aug '17 2:58:17 AM by M84

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CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#3669: Aug 4th 2017 at 11:04:06 AM

For the eclipse, I was entirely sold on the "once a century" and the "Free glasses to view with" aspects. Though in general, I'm not too hard to impress, at least as far as natural phenomenon go...

Currently, not quite homemade rockets but I suppose club-made rockets are a-coming: Rocket launched from the Georgia coast

No witnesses from the general public were allowed, but Vector, a private micro-satellite space launch company, today says it successfully launched a test vehicle – the first use of “Spaceport Camden” on the Georgia coast.

Regulations laid down by the Federal Aviation Administration allowed the low-altitude, single-stage launch, as long as the rocket remained within the confines of the Camden County property.

Below is the video the company just provided us, taken by drones at the site. The rocket was to return to the ground via parachute. Video of the landing was not released, but the chutes did deploy, the company reported: https://youtu.be/JeLxzteo7wE

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#3670: Aug 4th 2017 at 2:40:26 PM

Let's say you wanted to build a floating city on a gas giant. Can there a hypothetical planet where, at a particular altitude, gravity, temperature, and pressure are habitable for humans?

CenturyEye Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign? from I don't know where the Yith sent me this time... Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Tell Me, Have You Seen the Yellow Sign?
#3671: Aug 4th 2017 at 2:48:04 PM

Well for Venus a floating city is the only way to inhabit that planet. Beyond going for the insane option (said Venus), I know of no others.

[down]Really...I'm right comfortable 260 million km away from the place. Whoever joins that colony must've really needed to get away. (True for any colony I suppose but Venus...)

edited 4th Aug '17 2:52:55 PM by CenturyEye

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#3672: Aug 4th 2017 at 2:49:37 PM

[up][up]Wind-speed might be an issue... The bulkier the planet, the more interesting it gets, generally speaking (unless we're talking Neptune — weird things). Also, updrafts and downdrafts could be bitches. :/

edited 4th Aug '17 2:53:41 PM by Euodiachloris

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#3673: Aug 4th 2017 at 3:39:41 PM

Can there a hypothetical planet where, at a particular altitude, gravity, temperature, and pressure are habitable for humans?
Given that all of those things are closely related (gravity is affected by altitude, pressure is affected by gravity, temperature is affected by pressure), yes, absolutely. Venus we know for sure has a layer of the atmosphere like that since we've actually sent probes there (watch out for the sulfuric acid though, that's not much fun) and it wouldn't be unreasonable to believe that gas giants would have something similar as well (though likely with its own hazards, too).

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#3674: Aug 4th 2017 at 4:00:01 PM

[up] Thank you. That's exactly the answer I was hoping for.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3675: Aug 20th 2017 at 11:37:12 PM

Bumping this, because on this day a major solar eclipse will happen over North America. I don't think the sun has yet risen on the west coast yet but the part shadow will be visible from everywhere, I think. And the full shadow from a belt ranging from Oregon to South Carolina, including some mid sized cities like Salem OR, Nashville and Charleston.

Such eclipses aren't rare but any given location does rarely see a full eclipse; the last eclipse over the continental US was in 1979 and the next will be in 2024.

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