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On TV Tropes, it's very common for editors to misuse appearance tropes, as well as tropes whose names make them sound like they could be appearance tropes.

Meaningful Appearance tropes are often misused in ways that overlook the "Meaningful" aspect, resulting in Zero Context Examples and misuse in the form of examples that have no meaning even if the tropes themselves are not People Sit on Chairs.

The Appearance Tropes Cleanup sandbox covers tropes with potential issues. Tropes that simply require cleanup will go through this thread, while tropes that require more significant action will have to go through the Trope Repair Shop.

April 2, 2023 update: This thread is no longer for making changes to tropes, and was brought back from the Projects Morgue solely for cleanup. Making changes to tropes is still a job for the Trope Repair Shop.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 2nd 2023 at 9:18:26 AM

GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#3201: Dec 18th 2021 at 5:22:42 AM

Related to what I said about bringing up the idea of retiring this thread in the mod chat, there were a couple of ideas I had that I didn't mention until now:

  • Waiting for the Fingerless Gloves project to finish before closing the thread.
  • Moving the thread to TRS to bring more attention to the Fingerless Gloves project (similarly to how threads from other parts of the forums have been moved to TRS), then sending the thread to the Morgue after that's done, while having further appearance tropes use standard TRS threads.

For the record, I wouldn't do either of those things without consulting the other mods, especially since I haven't received many opinions on what to do about this thread's lack of activity compared to TRS's increase in activity.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 18th 2021 at 7:26:43 AM

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#3202: Dec 18th 2021 at 5:29:26 AM

I think we should finish Fingerless Gloves and then close this thread. All we need do is launch the Hobo Gloves TLP and then turn Fingerless Gloves into a disambiguation between that and Meaningful Appearance or something else that’s broad enough.

The crowner (which isn’t attached to the thread anymore ) called for making a Gloves Of Toughness or Gloves Of Coolness trope in the TLP but I think we can just yard that since it’s been and no one is interested in writing a draft for it.

Edited by MacronNotes on Dec 18th 2021 at 8:37:24 AM

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#3203: Dec 18th 2021 at 7:59:31 AM

Hobo Gloves has already been launched, so I agree with adding the others to the Salvage Yard, disambiguating Fingerless Gloves, and closing this thread.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Dec 18th 2021 at 10:00:50 AM

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#3204: Dec 31st 2021 at 7:09:04 AM

Ok, I finally got around to disambiguating Fingerless Gloves. Don’t have time to clean up the wicks right now though because I have other projects to do.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 1st 2022 at 7:18:02 AM

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#3205: Jan 1st 2022 at 12:41:34 AM

I cut the Laconic and I'll add the page to TRS Wick Cleaning.

A couple of questions:

  • Are we Yarding the other splits that came up alongside Hobo Gloves?
  • Are we going to close this thread in favor of TRS after wick cleanup for Fingerless Gloves is done?

Edit: I added Gloves of Toughness and Gloves of Coolness to the Salvage Yard. Did I miss anything?

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 1st 2022 at 2:51:40 PM

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#3206: Jan 1st 2022 at 4:22:37 AM

Yes, we should close this thread after wick cleaning is done. I'm going to keep the Appearance Tropes Cleanup sandbox around for self reference though. Also, yes, we just have to yard Gloves Of Coolness and Gloves Of Toughness (which you already did)

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#3207: Jan 28th 2022 at 6:26:12 AM

Thoughts on Power Hair? The page has plenty of "X has this" examples, and the rest don't sound like they were intentionally invoking a powerful image.

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#3208: Jan 28th 2022 at 9:25:57 AM

This thread is going to be retired as soon as Fingerless Gloves gets dewicked so we aren't going to be working on any new tropes.

Buut I think there’s enough bad examples and ZCE’s on Power Hair to warrant a wick check.

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#3209: Jan 28th 2022 at 9:31:48 AM

Somehow in my head thought that Fingerless Gloves is almost done before checking how much there's left.

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#3210: Feb 12th 2022 at 6:26:29 PM

I finally finished Fingerless Gloves today! I also made sandboxes for Sandbox.Gloves Of Toughness and Sandbox.Gloves Of Coolness for salvageable FG wicks.

Since all of the work for Fingerless Gloves is done, I'm going to lock and morgue this thread.

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#3211: Apr 2nd 2023 at 2:29:53 PM

OK, per mod discussion, this thread was brought back solely as a cleanup thread, with this thread's scope being reduced to only cleaning up tropes because we're still going to use TRS and not this thread for making changes that don't involve simply cleaning up tropes.

The mod discussion that led to this being brought back started in this TRS thread for Girlish Pigtails, since it was determined that only cleanup was needed.

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#3212: Apr 2nd 2023 at 2:43:19 PM

Glad to see this thread opened again, and of course happy to help with cleaning up Girlish Pigtails.

Ayumi-chan low-poly Shinri from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
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#3213: Apr 2nd 2023 at 4:34:20 PM

Sorry so replying late, just woke up.

Anyways, I'm kinda disappointed that the rename idea didn't go through since I do think "pigtails=youthfulness" is a valid idea but the way it's named attracts a lot of ZCE.

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WarJay77 Bonnie's Artistic Cousin from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#3214: Apr 2nd 2023 at 4:37:11 PM

IDK if I agree that the name is causing problems (it's better than most appearance trope titles, as it actually specifies the character trait); appearance tropes in general attract issues not for their titles but because people don't know how to actually contextualize them.

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Ayumi-chan low-poly Shinri from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
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#3215: Apr 2nd 2023 at 4:38:30 PM

[up] Yeah that's fair enough

Anyways, I'll try and help with what I can.

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#3216: Apr 2nd 2023 at 4:38:45 PM

Girlish is a synonym for youthful so it's not really the name that's the issue. Appearance tropes just decay like this by nature.

In any case, I'll look through some of the wicks when I have time.

(was [nja] but point still stands)

Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 2nd 2023 at 7:39:29 AM

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#3217: Apr 14th 2023 at 7:47:10 PM

OK, I have Peek A Bangs queued up again because it's still has issues without thinking the trope just about the hairstyle but I am having second thoughts. I have my OP and old wick check at Sandbox.Peek A Bangs Wick Check. I just want to make if this is an issue can't be fixed with clean up alone. If it is, I'll remove the trope from the Sandbox.TRS Queue.

Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 14th 2023 at 10:47:33 AM

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