"Girl Meets World" (Sequel Series to "Boy Meets World")

Don't they have another brother?

Yes he also has shown up a couple of times in Season 1.

Joshua the SURPRISE! I'm sure he'll be back,if only to give Farkle angst while Maya drools over him.

Just saw the latest one. Man, they're not going to let Joshua get away from Maya's advances without ripping him a new one for it, are they?

Yeah, that one kind of annoyed me actually. He's right about the age difference here. I mean yes, it's 3 years, but 3 years between someone who is a teenager and a young adult and two young adults is different. Also, I genuinely dislike those girls Josh was with given how pushy they were there and threatening to ensure his singleness (by giving him the reputation of a pedophile...). Seriously, the guy isn't allowed to make his own decisions?

Honestly, he's handled this situation really well. He didn't mock anything with her crush, he approaches everything maturely, and even logically explains the issues with it, yet he gets treated like shit for it.

Okay, on the more positive side real quick, I actually am still liking this series overall in spite of some weaknesses. Also, the tot legit did make me laugh once. And Riley worked well within this episode's more ridiculous nature, especially with the college parts.

edited 7th Jun '15 7:15:25 PM by Prime_of_Perfection

It IS a good show, I'm just not sure how to feel about it.

ETA: And I don't think they were giving him the reputation of a pedophile, given that a. the show really does seem to be pushing those two together, and b. It really is only three years. There's states (like mine) where the 16 year age of consent has a 4 year marker on it where til 18 you can only sleep with someone with 4 years older than you. Their 3 year difference is within that, so technically he wouldn't be a pedophile as long as he was willing to wait 2 years. I think the girls just wanted others to know he was either already taken or didn't know a good woman when he saw one.

edited 7th Jun '15 7:46:42 PM by Journeyman

I'm...way behind on the show but since there's no actual plot that's not much of a problem.

This and "Girl Meet First Date" (Where the interviewer Josh was crushing on shutting him down was pretty much set up to be Laser-Guided Karma) really infuriated me as Josh is basically being punished for daring to not return Maya's advances.

Maya herself I'm finding myself liking less and less within each episode to the point where I expect to find myself viewing her as The Scrappy by the end of the season.

The whole handling of the Maya and Josh thing is really uncomfortable to me, mostly because it feels like a Double Standard to me.

How does Josh have no say in this? And why are Cory and Topanga not stepping in to the fact that their daughter's best friend is pining over their little brother in a rather unhealthy and creepy manner?

On another note, I think Rowan is a much better comedic actor than a serious one. She was quite entertaining in this episode despite the incredibly ham-fisted "lesson".

edited 8th Jun '15 1:39:40 PM by somerndmguy

@ Journeyman, that's true on that technicality there, but still, she'd fall into jail bait category and once he does turn 18 and in college, wouldn't reflect well on his character at all. Even if it was true and he was doing nothing, the likelihood of it not giving him such a reputation is slim.

Also, yeah, I'm not liking Maya as much in the recent ones, but I'm going to hold out faith. Mainly because I've had a rocky road with her. First I just didn't care for her because I felt she was too much of a Shawn expy, then once Shawn was brought in and it was addressed as it has been, I started to warm up to her and the approach as a whole. But then some things from recent episodes, especially with her creepy obsession and fact show makes it seem like we're supposed to support it, keeps pushing me away now.

Regardless, in spite of complaints there, let it be clear I DO like the show and am glad for it!

If they're smart they'll leave it lying where it is for a couple years and let it come back when Maya's not Jailbait anymore. Or just push her toward Farkle for a while. Not like they haven't been teasing itfor the entire show.

x2 I think it all started for me with "Girl Meets Mr. Squirrels" where, as I mentioned in my DMOS entry for the show, the show expects us to feel sympathetic towards Maya for Lucas calling her "a short stack of pancakes" without taking in regard of all the cracks she made about his Texan background in which, were he a minority character, would come off as racist (Not helping that when Lucus brought up the names she called him she was smirking about it).

And with this recent episode where we see Josh basically being threatened to have his reputation ruined if he didn't see Maya more than a pre-teen (Nevermind the increasing rate of men being jailed for having a relationship with an underage girl, but that's another topic.), I'm already getting Creator's Pet vibes from her (though thankfully it's not to the level of certain characters). Like I said before, I have a feeling that I'm going to end up hating her by the end of the season.

edited 10th Jun '15 10:03:52 AM by LLSmoothJ

That one is another on my list of reasons Maya is actually getting on my nerves. Aside from fact that insult wasn't even that big a deal, just the whole fact she's put all this effort into dishing it out and she can't take the smallest thing (...ha.)/presented as being in the right for being so thin skinned really ticked me off.

...And huh. This is the first time I'm noticing the similarities between Maya & Sam now...

edited 10th Jun '15 8:17:38 PM by Prime_of_Perfection

To be fair, she wasn't mad about the insult itself, she was mad about Riley not having her back. If Maya's telling the truth about people picking on Riley behind her back and Maya standing up for her, I can completely understand why she'd be mad.

Of course, it's not like anyone defends Lucas from her insults, so it still comes across as a double standard.

Which leads into another point: Riley doesn't defend Lucas from Maya's potshots. Granted Lucas didn't seem to be bothered (at first), but he could've just been hoping that Maya would get bored and just give up (She even said at one point that she would break him) and even when he showed that he was getting annoyed, that didn't stop her as, if anything, it just encouraged her.

And no, the "He let's me" excuse doesn't cut it, as common sense shows that if someone clearly shows that they don't appreciate you calling them a certain name or treating them a certain way, you should take that as a hint to stop without having them out right telling you not to. Otherwise, you're just being an ass.

x2 Now that you mention it, Maya's starting to remind me more and more of Sam Puckett, only she doesn't physically abuse Lucas/Farkle (which is what makes her likable in comparison). *sigh* ...I'm gonna end up hating her, am I?

edited 10th Jun '15 9:53:41 PM by LLSmoothJ

It's probably an attempt to get kids to accept and like the annoying people in their lives. Because we all have them, and they really do suck. And Disney is NOT making the matter any better.

This last one was very fun, and it kind of did back up my statement that they're trying to get kids to accept the annoying people in their lives. I guess there could be less bullying in the world if people accepted bullies as just other people and worked to make them feel good about themselves.

You can't completely get rid of bullying with that, because some people have disorders that make them violent psychopaths who kill others.

That and some people aren't secretly victims themselves or anything like that. They're just cruel dicks who have gotten that way because people permit them to get away with such things for so long.

Oh yeah, I've noticed the similarities. Though, to GMW's credit though they haven't had Miley beat Farkle or Lucas with a Tennis Racket.

Well at least "Rules" had a more entertaining plot than the awkwardness that was "Tell-Tale Tot".

I'm kind of surprised that Lucas was the one who said he thought Harley was "so nice and couldn't imagine him being that intimidating before [paraphrased]," especially considering his past from "Secret of Life".

Hell, that episode was even explicitly mentioned at the end of the episode, so we don't even have the excuse of them airing the episodes out of order. Like really, writers? Kind of dropped the ball there.

edited 15th Jun '15 10:43:26 AM by somerndmguy

They didn't really drop the ball there. Lucas intimidated people to protect a friend. He had a purpose, and he used it. Harley intimidated a MACHINE into giving up its merchandise. Not really the same ball park.

Reportedly, "Girl Meets Hurricane" is supposed to have Angela make an appearance from a tweet from the "Girl Meets Writers" twitter account and I quote (unable to link as I'm at work currently):

"Tomorrow: Hurricane. Shawn and Angela. It's been 15 years since they broke up. One is happier than the other. The other learns why."

I wonder how they'll treat Angela, since the endgame seems to be Shawn hooking up with Katy so he can be Maya's father.

EDIT: From the comments in regards to the tweet, apparently Chet's supposed to be in the episode, too. And also, there are some (unconfirmed) spoilers in regards to what happens...Which I'm not sure how to feel about this...

Angela got married.

edited 18th Jun '15 10:09:50 AM by LLSmoothJ

She got married and is now divorced. The episode description is that Shawn must choose between the two. Admittedly have been looking forward to this episode as I'm curious how they'll handle this.

I'll take a "wait-and-see" approach for this one. But still doesn't change the fact that they're basically breaking up a beloved well-established couple solely for the benefit of a character I'm finding myself liking less and less.

And I've been reading the tweets in response to the episode and yeah, I really hope the writers/Michael Jacobs are aware of the hurricane they may create with this episode.

edited 18th Jun '15 12:16:26 PM by LLSmoothJ

Well they aren't breaking them up given that they WERE already broken up & they were broken up due to how the original series ended things with them. Maya's mom wasn't a character when their relationship ended. I do agree with you there that I actually hope Shawn chooses Angela, but I'm mostly rooting for it purely because it would be unpredictable and I'm curious how Shawn could handle remaining in Maya's life/filling a role in it while still pursuing relationships outside of it.

edited 18th Jun '15 1:01:54 PM by Prime_of_Perfection