Crazed feminists?

Don't. The Javert from the novel was not an extremist with no other life other than hunting Valjean, and it only feels that way in the musical because it's forced to condense the plot into several hours of singing.

Extreme singing. :3

Yeah, I don't really feel much need for a word to condemn people who support morally abhorrent positions: even if we made up one, I would give it less than a minute before it gets abused to hell and back.

I'd rather content myself with simply pointing out which positions are, in my opinion, morally abhorrent.

edited 4th Nov '12 2:43:01 AM by Carciofus

Is there not one of my ideas that will not eventually or immediately be ruined when exposed to reality?

Because in the heat of the moment in that flame war it was a sick burn.

Sadly, ideas like that tend to go up in smoke.

Just like the video game controller that was hands free in the form of a Mind Helmet that would have finally helped my enjoy video games as a medium without those horrid controls getting in the way.

A man can dream, can't he? A man can dream...

That will probably become viable soon-ish. Systems along these lines exist already to assist impaired people; but for now, they are just too invasive, expensive and imprecise to be usable for entertainment purposes. But give it ten to twenty years, tops, and I believe that we'll definitely see something along these lines (and I am generally quite cautious when it comes to estimates of this kind...)

edited 4th Nov '12 4:30:26 AM by Carciofus

re. the OP: I think we should just gas these crazy freaks and have done with it.

Meh. White knights will just have to join the queue and get their beating in turn.

edited 4th Nov '12 6:02:44 AM by InverurieJones

I got one better. "You're a dick."

She can't respond predictably because it's neither misogynist towards women, applicable towards women biologically, and it's egalitarian in that you can use the same phrase against men (with somewhat diminished anymore effectiveness).

Extremist feminists (of which I've found a lot more of those in reality than the "anti" kind who don't follow that route) are extremely easy to outwit and outsmart in the debate arena.

How about 'worthless, bigotted, stinking, sub-human filth'?

No genitals involved at all.

edited 4th Nov '12 6:50:12 AM by InverurieJones

Most extremists are.

Mostly because they're usually completely nuts. Which also means they probably won't get that you're making an idiot out of them.

^ I've seen (and done that) that happen to all kinds. Religious extremists, anti-gun folks, abortion folks, various other things. All easy to outwit if you play your cards right.

@ Carcio: It's a lot closer than you think.

You guys think those on that polling website are batshit, try and check out Femitheist Divine on Youtube.

She makes these ones look tame.

edited 4th Nov '12 1:45:34 PM by NickTheSwing

Reminds me of a feminist blog someone linked me to once that was decrying MTF transgenderedism as another way for men to abuse women, and how they shouldn't be allowed to identify as female or use female restrooms and such because they secretly want to rape cisgendered women.

Oh, cool.

Still, I cannot shake the feeling that much of the popularity of these groups might be due to MRAs going gleefully around saying "See? See? Feminists are evil, as we always said!"

I mean, sure, they exist and they are nutty, no argument about that. But why do I keep hearing so much about them, compared to what I hear about other, similarly nutty groups?

edited 4th Nov '12 1:54:23 PM by Carciofus

I dunno, I hear a lot about other nutty groups too. It's pretty common to make fun of groups that do things that are completely insane.

Wait, I think that was Femitheist's blog. On FSTDT, there was a quote by her on her blog saying basically that.

Because these ones are really, really loud, and in some cases, have the most audacious (and somewhat horrifying) plans.

That too.

edited 4th Nov '12 1:59:19 PM by NickTheSwing

Maybe I'm wrong then.

Still, I find it somewhat darkly amusing that they bought hook, line and sinker the whole "women are Closer to Earth, purer and more peaceful than men" idea. That is a classical patriarchal narrative, after all — a typical case of putting women on a narrow pedestal that happens to justify the traditional gender roles...

edited 4th Nov '12 2:14:41 PM by Carciofus

It's happened offline too, I remember there was a big kerfluffle at a pagan-conference a friend of mine went to, where post-op transgendered women weren't allowed into rituals for women, because they "weren't really women".

I think it's also more common? Maybe it's just the circles I run in, but there's a lot of psudo-wiccan vagina-worshiping hippies online.

Edit: I mean "vagina-worshiping" in the literal sense. As in they consider their vagina to be holy.

edited 4th Nov '12 2:11:23 PM by DrunkGirlfriend

Suddenly I'm reminded of that "your vagina is haunted!" quote from somecomicwhosenameimnotsureof

edited 4th Nov '12 2:13:39 PM by SimplyWhatever

I don't know much about MT Fs but that's just paranoia at it's finest. I wonder what they would think of a transman. Theyd probably think he was a self loathing woman trying to join the patriarchy..

I saw a quote by femitheist on Fundies Say The Darndnest Things. She really is batshit insane. She nor the women in that polling sites aren really feminist at all. They are just batshit insane misandrists.

I also find it funny that extremists (of all stripes) demonize the group that they're against/opressed by as a bunch of complete monsters and yet turn around and want to do things to that group that is just as bad and ,at times EVEN WORSE than the orginal opression.

edited 4th Nov '12 2:18:11 PM by monkeyheroine

Well, when you stare into the abyss...

Drunky: ...the abyss rants back.

And then you engage in meaningful conversation with the abyss. It turns out the abyss is actually quite friendly when you get to know him.