Duplicate Trope: Walk Through The Camera get usage counts

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51 SeptimusHeap9th Feb 2013 01:03:50 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Why? Can't think of a reason.
52 Noaqiyeum9th Feb 2013 01:06:09 PM from across the gulf of space , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The it-thingy
...Because the idea of sitting on the camera would then be combined with the others for Body Wipe Or Whatever We Call It, and Sit On The Camera would then become a nonindicative name? Seems obvious to me.
53 SeptimusHeap9th Feb 2013 01:07:17 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Not getting it. The trope is about sit-on-the-cam POV.
54 Noaqiyeum9th Feb 2013 01:26:39 PM from across the gulf of space , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The it-thingy
Not after we erase that paragraph.
55 SeptimusHeap9th Feb 2013 01:28:49 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Having a character's butt be in front of camera after he/she sits on another character. The camera could have a P.O.V. Cam of the person about to be sat on and their butt obscures the camera. Or someone could just have a closeup of his butt. The Butts are like Camera Obscurer.
56 Noaqiyeum9th Feb 2013 01:31:08 PM from across the gulf of space , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The it-thingy
That's the part we're agreed isn't distinct from Body Wipe. Right?
57 SeptimusHeap9th Feb 2013 01:34:46 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
That is Sit On The Camera. Not distinct from Sandworm Shot? Disagree.

edited 9th Feb '13 1:35:01 PM by SeptimusHeap

58 Noaqiyeum9th Feb 2013 01:55:18 PM from across the gulf of space , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The it-thingy
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I understand that I am mistaken about... something. Could you please elaborate?
59 SeptimusHeap9th Feb 2013 01:57:30 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
The tropes discussed are about the person getting past the camera. Sit On The Camera is sitting.
60 Noaqiyeum9th Feb 2013 02:05:34 PM from across the gulf of space , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The it-thingy
How does this particular physical position of the body being used to transition or set the camera shot affect it differently from any other position under discussion?
61 SeptimusHeap10th Feb 2013 01:59:19 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Well, for one, because it's a walk-through. I am not sure how you are lumping them together.
Seeking for Light
But not all the tropes that are going to be merged into the article are walk throughs. That's just one variant; the common thread is that the camera pans essentially into the body before cutting to something else, whether that something else is a completely different scene or the other side of the body.
I have found another name, Junior Shot
64 Noaqiyeum13th Feb 2013 06:45:21 AM from across the gulf of space , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The it-thingy
Isn't that a step backwards? Body Wipe would at least make sense in the context of Camera Tricks, but Junior Shot would not.
I don't see how Sit on the Camera is separate from other parts of Body Wipe. In all cases a character puts their body in front of the camera to force a cut.
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
I don't think Eat the Camera was created by this guy, I have its discussion page in my watchlist and I think it was made by Korodzik
Seeking for Light
[up] Who they were made by doesn't really matter. They're still all close to duplicates (if not outright duplicates).
68 Noaqiyeum13th Feb 2013 08:56:07 PM from across the gulf of space , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The it-thingy
I think Eat the Camera may be different because it's never used as a simple scene transition or wipe shot as the rest of these are - it's invariably used to place emphasis on something that character has just put in their mouth, usually on how disturbing or disgusting it is (or something else happening at the time is) because it's such an unnatural viewpoint.

edited 13th Feb '13 8:57:01 PM by Noaqiyeum

Here's something else, Obscure Cut; it kind of combines all the tropes together because its basically a cut between scenes. It can mean someone putting their body in front of the camera until it's cut to a new scene, the other side of the body.
In uffish thought
It would have to be Obscuring Cut (else it might be a rare version of a movie, for example), and even then I think it's too broad.
Well I don't think Eat the Camera should be separate, because it is also kind of a cut between scenes. So it counts as an Obscuring Cut.

edited 16th Feb '13 5:55:10 AM by allnaturaltrans4

72 SeptimusHeap16th Feb 2013 08:41:35 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
"cut between scenes" isn't the only point to Eat the Camera. Who would want to look into someone's mouth?
[up] Well I know that, but o nce the camera does enter someone's mouth, the screen could go completely black; and they won't actually EAT the camera.
74 Noaqiyeum16th Feb 2013 12:28:34 PM from across the gulf of space , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The it-thingy
That doesn't mean it should be merged, though. It's a distinct subtrope, at best.
I don't think it's that different, because I've seen cartoons where a character's mouth fills the screen as they are running from something or as they're falling. And that's exactly what the other tropes are implying.

Alternative Titles: Walk Through The Camera
7th Mar '13 6:22:27 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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