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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#51: Feb 9th 2013 at 1:03:50 PM

Why? Can't think of a reason.

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#52: Feb 9th 2013 at 1:06:09 PM

...Because the idea of sitting on the camera would then be combined with the others for Body Wipe Or Whatever We Call It, and Sit on the Camera would then become a nonindicative name? Seems obvious to me.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#53: Feb 9th 2013 at 1:07:17 PM

Not getting it. The trope is about sit-on-the-cam POV.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#55: Feb 9th 2013 at 1:28:49 PM

Having a character's butt be in front of camera after he/she sits on another character. The camera could have a P.O.V. Cam of the person about to be sat on and their butt obscures the camera. Or someone could just have a closeup of his butt. The Butts are like Camera Obscurer.

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#56: Feb 9th 2013 at 1:31:08 PM

That's the part we're agreed isn't distinct from Body Wipe. Right?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#57: Feb 9th 2013 at 1:34:46 PM

That is Sit on the Camera. Not distinct from Sandworm Shot? Disagree.

edited 9th Feb '13 1:35:01 PM by SeptimusHeap

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#58: Feb 9th 2013 at 1:55:18 PM

...

I understand that I am mistaken about... something. Could you please elaborate?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#59: Feb 9th 2013 at 1:57:30 PM

The tropes discussed are about the person getting past the camera. Sit on the Camera is sitting.

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#60: Feb 9th 2013 at 2:05:34 PM

How does this particular physical position of the body being used to transition or set the camera shot affect it differently from any other position under discussion?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#61: Feb 10th 2013 at 1:59:19 AM

Well, for one, because it's a walk-through. I am not sure how you are lumping them together.

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#62: Feb 10th 2013 at 7:11:14 PM

But not all the tropes that are going to be merged into the article are walk throughs. That's just one variant; the common thread is that the camera pans essentially into the body before cutting to something else, whether that something else is a completely different scene or the other side of the body.

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#64: Feb 13th 2013 at 6:45:21 AM

Isn't that a step backwards? Body Wipe would at least make sense in the context of Camera Tricks, but Junior Shot would not.

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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#65: Feb 13th 2013 at 7:48:36 AM

I don't see how Sit on the Camera is separate from other parts of Body Wipe. In all cases a character puts their body in front of the camera to force a cut.

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allnaturaltrans4 Since: Nov, 2012
#66: Feb 13th 2013 at 8:44:36 AM

I don't think Eat the Camera was created by this guy, I have its discussion page in my watchlist and I think it was made by Korodzik

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#67: Feb 13th 2013 at 9:12:49 AM

[up] Who they were made by doesn't really matter. They're still all close to duplicates (if not outright duplicates).

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#68: Feb 13th 2013 at 8:56:07 PM

I think Eat the Camera may be different because it's never used as a simple scene transition or wipe shot as the rest of these are - it's invariably used to place emphasis on something that character has just put in their mouth, usually on how disturbing or disgusting it is (or something else happening at the time is) because it's such an unnatural viewpoint.

edited 13th Feb '13 8:57:01 PM by Noaqiyeum

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allnaturaltrans4 Since: Nov, 2012
#69: Feb 14th 2013 at 7:14:21 AM

Here's something else, Obscure Cut; it kind of combines all the tropes together because its basically a cut between scenes. It can mean someone putting their body in front of the camera until it's cut to a new scene, the other side of the body.

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#70: Feb 14th 2013 at 10:00:00 AM

It would have to be Obscuring Cut (else it might be a rare version of a movie, for example), and even then I think it's too broad.

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allnaturaltrans4 Since: Nov, 2012
#71: Feb 16th 2013 at 5:54:51 AM

Well I don't think Eat the Camera should be separate, because it is also kind of a cut between scenes. So it counts as an Obscuring Cut.

edited 16th Feb '13 5:55:10 AM by allnaturaltrans4

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#72: Feb 16th 2013 at 8:41:35 AM

"cut between scenes" isn't the only point to Eat the Camera. Who would want to look into someone's mouth?

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allnaturaltrans4 Since: Nov, 2012
#73: Feb 16th 2013 at 12:22:58 PM

[up] Well I know that, but o nce the camera does enter someone's mouth, the screen could go completely black; and they won't actually EAT the camera.

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#74: Feb 16th 2013 at 12:28:34 PM

That doesn't mean it should be merged, though. It's a distinct subtrope, at best.

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allnaturaltrans4 Since: Nov, 2012
#75: Feb 20th 2013 at 6:55:23 AM

I don't think it's that different, because I've seen cartoons where a character's mouth fills the screen as they are running from something or as they're falling. And that's exactly what the other tropes are implying.

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Walk Through The Camera, Body Screen Fill Up, Walk Into Camera Obstruction, Walk Into The Camera (blanked), Walking Away Shot, and POV Camera Cut Front To Back are all about camera transitions that are identical or very similar. In addition, Sit On The Camera and Eat The Camera have little distinct meaning in a story. It is likely that not all the separate pages are needed.

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