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DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
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#51: Dec 11th 2012 at 4:44:44 AM

Sdrawckab Alias (and Backwards Alias as a redirect) seem best to me.

Though I have to admit, I got a kick out of Ecila And Bob.

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ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#52: Dec 11th 2012 at 7:49:41 AM

I prefer Sdrawkcab Alias. Other backwards words are hard to recognize.

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#53: Dec 11th 2012 at 8:42:53 AM

I have a useful mnemonic that might help those people who find it difficult to spell Sdrawkcab — it's "backwards" backwards. The More You Know...

I say make Sdrawkcab Name the supertrope and Sdrawkcab Alias the "used as a pseudonym" subtrope.

(My God, I had to think for a second about how to spell pseudonym! The dictionary people should change it!)

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#54: Dec 11th 2012 at 6:53:06 PM

[up]Heh, handy mnemonic. Wonder why nobody else thought of it? [lol]

Basically, though that's what we're doing. Sdrawkcab Alias is in YKTTW, and we're just waiting for it to finish. The only real question remaining is whether that's what we should call it. And I say yes to Sdrawkcab Alias. It's a very closely related trope, so the similar names make sense, but "name" vs. "alias" is a pretty clear distinction. I don't think it's going to cause problems, and I think an unrelated name might.

p.s. The Alias discussion looks pretty good, and already has five hats, so it can probably be launched just as soon as we're sure about the name.

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#55: Dec 15th 2012 at 9:33:42 AM

Not a trope, yeah it has been disputed already but that the suggestion was even made is enough for a repeat. Rellik is killer spelled backwards!

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Kernigh Since: Sep, 2012
#56: Dec 15th 2012 at 9:27:19 PM

I launched Sdrawkcab Alias moments ago.

There were more than 800 links to Sdrawkcab Name. Some of these need to point to Sdrawkcab Alias. I have checked all links to Backwards Name, and the A links to Sdrawkcab Name.

We need to check B through Z on this list: Related to Main/SdrawkcabName.

How to check: Take the name ("Amzy") and spell it backwards. If the reversal ("Yzma") is the character's real name In-Universe, then you have a Sdrawkcab Alias. In contrast, if "Waldo" and "Odlaw" are two different characters, or if "Rotiart" is the real name, then you have a Sdrawkcab Name. If there is not enough information, then use Sdrawkcab Name, which is the supertrope.

EDIT: I checked the B links.

edited 19th Dec '12 7:04:53 PM by Kernigh

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#57: Dec 23rd 2012 at 2:53:20 PM

Do we need another subtrope for "foreshadowing a character trait through its backwards name"? E.g. having a character called Rotiart show up who turns out to be a traitor. Is that meaningfully distinct from the supertrope Sdrawkcab Name?

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#58: Dec 24th 2012 at 8:41:53 AM

Don't think it's necessary.

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Kernigh Since: Sep, 2012
#59: Dec 29th 2012 at 8:35:08 PM

I checked the C links.

We need to check D through Z on this list: Related to Main/SdrawkcabName.

EDIT: I checked Da through Dm.

edited 30th Dec '12 7:40:19 PM by Kernigh

Kernigh Since: Sep, 2012
#60: Jan 14th 2013 at 2:42:10 PM

I checked Dn through Dz, and E.

Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
#61: Jan 14th 2013 at 6:00:10 PM

Okay, okay, but should we keep Alucard the same?

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#62: Jan 14th 2013 at 9:19:47 PM

Alucard is a specific sdrawkcab name that shows up often enough in vampire fiction to be a trope of its own. It probably doesn't need a big change.

edited 14th Jan '13 9:20:02 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
#63: Jan 14th 2013 at 9:27:22 PM

Kk. Just need to know what are the relations of the three tropes in terms of Super-Trope, Sub-Trope, etc.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#64: Jan 15th 2013 at 7:58:14 PM

Subtrope of Sdrawkcab Name, but only counts as a Sdrawkcab Alias if it's the D-man himself using it (which I think is not that often these days).

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
#65: Jan 15th 2013 at 8:05:42 PM

Vampire Hunter D, Rosario To Vampire, Hellsing. Not sure about the first two, but the third is confirmed Villain Protagonist. That's just from Anime & Manga!

edited 15th Jan '13 8:07:23 PM by Thecommander236

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#66: Mar 18th 2013 at 4:55:52 AM

Clocking.

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#67: Mar 19th 2013 at 1:41:21 PM

Isn't this all done except for wick checking/sorting? Shouldn't it have the little "pending final" orange asterisk?

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#68: Mar 19th 2013 at 1:44:12 PM

There was talk of a rename.

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#69: Mar 19th 2013 at 4:57:28 PM

[up]Support for that proposition seemed to be negligible. In any case, we really need to finish the wick cleanup/sorting.

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Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
#70: Mar 19th 2013 at 7:20:25 PM

Forwards Sdrawkcab Name ?

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Kernigh Since: Sep, 2012
#71: Apr 8th 2013 at 5:13:05 PM

I checked F.

Nothing happened from 14th January 2013 (when I checked E) to 8th April 2013 (today, when I checked F). In the F zone, I only made 2 links to Sdrawkcab Alias (though I also made 1 link to Significant Anagram and 1 link to Alucard).

Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
#72: Apr 8th 2013 at 5:25:31 PM

Thought this discussion was dead. What about Backwards Anagram? Or Semordnilap? (read this page for an explanation. Also this for other such words.

Spelled Backwards?

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#73: Apr 9th 2013 at 4:49:10 PM

[up]All decisions are final, I think, at this point. We're merely implementing them—cleaning up the wicks. No valid arguments for a rename have been brought forward, and Sdrawkcab Alias has already been launched.

[down]Sifting through wicks and making sure they point to the appropriate trope. Kernigh just finished 'F' above.

edited 9th Apr '13 4:53:49 PM by Xtifr

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#74: Apr 9th 2013 at 4:50:41 PM

What sort of cleanup needs to be done? This thread wandered quite a bit.

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ThePope Since: Oct, 2010
#75: Apr 9th 2013 at 8:15:51 PM

Isn't this taken care of?

The trope's been split; can we take cleanup into another thread? We kind of have a limit on here.


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