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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#76: Sep 29th 2012 at 6:18:13 PM

I honestly don't see how its any more negative than any of the other suggestions. If anything, it seems carefully neutral, while "flat" and "satellite" seem to me to have more obvious negative connotations.

Note: I don't feel strongly about which of these titles should win; I just think some of the objections some people are raising to some of them make little or no sense.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#77: Sep 30th 2012 at 12:30:23 AM

I think a few of the names will work, and most of the probems brought up (aside from the shallow person problem) are closer related to general troper attitude than the names themselves.

A random note, all suggestions with Love Interest in them are ahead of all other suggestions.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#78: Sep 30th 2012 at 11:41:14 AM

So, it looks like we're probably going to rename this to Satellite Love Interest. Should we also broaden it to match Satellite Character? It won't take much. We just need to de-emphasize how one-dimensional the character needs to be, since a Satellite Character can be more complex. We're going to need to tweak the definition in any case, I think, to make it less complainy.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#79: Sep 30th 2012 at 1:13:01 PM

Sure. I had misunderstood the exact definition of a Satellite Character, but now that I've read it, it's actually closer to what I think this trope should be than I thought at first, to the point of an actual subtrope.

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#80: Oct 11th 2012 at 5:54:24 AM

One bump to see if this name is okay with most.

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#82: Oct 14th 2012 at 11:46:26 AM

Crowner called.

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#83: Dec 9th 2012 at 8:04:03 AM

Interesting how this died just at the final stage.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#84: Dec 9th 2012 at 8:10:41 AM

I'll start it when I am finished with two other threads.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#85: Dec 14th 2012 at 6:48:42 AM

Did the page and indexes, now only the wicks need work on.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#86: Dec 15th 2012 at 4:24:00 PM

Remember that there's a lot of misuse, so the wicks all have to be evaluated. I'm not sure we really have an appropriate trope for the misuse, though some of it might go under The Ditz or related tropes.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#87: Dec 15th 2012 at 9:29:54 PM

How strict are we going to be about calling the character a satellite love interest? For example, I think it's common that someone obviously exists only to be a love interest and are basically defined by it, but they do interact with others and have their own interests and whatnot. It's just that those things are just sort of details added to keep them from being entirely bland.

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#88: Dec 16th 2012 at 3:11:48 AM

[up]Check Satellite Character. I think we decided that we need to modify the description here to be a little closer to Satellite Character, which is somewhat broader. I think what you're describing would fit, but you may want to double-check.

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Slimbship4 Since: Sep, 2012
#89: Dec 19th 2012 at 8:59:43 AM

I took care of the wicks to Shallow Female Love Interest. This should make the wick cleaning a bit easier.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#90: Jan 5th 2013 at 6:29:40 AM

89 wicks removed. 651 still to go.

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#91: Jan 5th 2013 at 12:59:36 PM

I edited the description a bit to make sure the link to Satellite Character was more prominent, and changed the now-confusing bit where it said that merely being a love interest doesn't necessarily make you shallow. That whole warning in the second paragraph may still be a bit overdone, though, now that this has a new, less negative name. I'm not sure.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#92: Jan 5th 2013 at 1:18:36 PM

The only problem with it is that it's an editor warning, not a reader warning.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#94: Jan 5th 2013 at 2:42:45 PM

I think that section can simply be deleted, possibly replaced with

Not the same thing as The Scrappy or Damsel Scrappy, although they can become these. Often subject to Die for Our Ship.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#95: Jan 5th 2013 at 5:10:00 PM

[up][up]Prefers which?

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#96: Jan 5th 2013 at 6:35:50 PM

[up]Eddie has historically expressed a preference for warnings about misusing a trope to be targeted at editors, not readers (although that usually means commented-out, which isn't the case here).

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#97: Jan 6th 2013 at 9:49:47 AM

[up]Right. That latter bit is the point of my concern. It shouldn't be in the description, but in the code.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#98: Jan 11th 2013 at 6:05:52 AM

Did U-Z. Now at 566 wicks.

Did T. Now at 452 wicks.

edited 11th Jan '13 6:48:35 AM by SeptimusHeap

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#99: Jan 11th 2013 at 12:00:01 PM

Did S, now at 345 wicks.

Doubleposting because I want to know whether Bella and Edward (or whatever their names are) from Twilight are Satellite Love Interests or just random complaining.

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willthiswork Since: Oct, 2012
#100: Jan 11th 2013 at 12:13:12 PM

If Bella and Edward count then basically every main in every romance novel counts, yeah? I mean, technically they both only exist to be each other's love interest because they is the whole friggin point of the series, but I think that is missing the point of the trope a little bit.

They both do things not related to being each others roamance interest. Barely. Cut them.

SingleProposition: ShallowLoveInterest
16th Aug '12 1:10:31 PM

Crown Description:

Shallow Love Interest is being misused for a person who is shallow and superficial and/or for Designated Love Interest.

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