Rename (28/9/12): Shallow Love Interest get usage counts

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76 Xtifr29th Sep 2012 06:18:13 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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I honestly don't see how its any more negative than any of the other suggestions. If anything, it seems carefully neutral, while "flat" and "satellite" seem to me to have more obvious negative connotations.

Note: I don't feel strongly about which of these titles should win; I just think some of the objections some people are raising to some of them make little or no sense.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
77 AnotherDuck30th Sep 2012 12:30:23 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
I think a few of the names will work, and most of the probems brought up (aside from the shallow person problem) are closer related to general troper attitude than the names themselves.

A random note, all suggestions with Love Interest in them are ahead of all other suggestions.
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78 Xtifr30th Sep 2012 11:41:14 AM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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So, it looks like we're probably going to rename this to Satellite Love Interest. Should we also broaden it to match Satellite Character? It won't take much. We just need to de-emphasize how one-dimensional the character needs to be, since a Satellite Character can be more complex. We're going to need to tweak the definition in any case, I think, to make it less complainy.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
79 AnotherDuck30th Sep 2012 01:13:01 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
Sure. I had misunderstood the exact definition of a Satellite Character, but now that I've read it, it's actually closer to what I think this trope should be than I thought at first, to the point of an actual subtrope.
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80 lu12711th Oct 2012 05:54:24 AM from 七夜 , Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
One bump to see if this name is okay with most.
I'm good with it.
82 lu12714th Oct 2012 11:46:26 AM from 七夜 , Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Crowner called.
83 lu1279th Dec 2012 08:04:03 AM from 七夜 , Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Interesting how this died just at the final stage.
84 SeptimusHeap9th Dec 2012 08:10:41 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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I'll start it when I am finished with two other threads.
85 SeptimusHeap14th Dec 2012 06:48:42 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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Did the page and indexes, now only the wicks need work on.
86 Xtifr15th Dec 2012 04:24:00 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Remember that there's a lot of misuse, so the wicks all have to be evaluated. I'm not sure we really have an appropriate trope for the misuse, though some of it might go under The Ditz or related tropes.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
How strict are we going to be about calling the character a satellite love interest? For example, I think it's common that someone obviously exists only to be a love interest and are basically defined by it, but they do interact with others and have their own interests and whatnot. It's just that those things are just sort of details added to keep them from being entirely bland.
88 Xtifr16th Dec 2012 03:11:48 AM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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[up]Check Satellite Character. I think we decided that we need to modify the description here to be a little closer to Satellite Character, which is somewhat broader. I think what you're describing would fit, but you may want to double-check.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
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I took care of the wicks to Shallow Female Love Interest. This should make the wick cleaning a bit easier.
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90 SeptimusHeap5th Jan 2013 06:29:40 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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89 wicks removed. 651 still to go.
91 Xtifr5th Jan 2013 12:59:36 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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I edited the description a bit to make sure the link to Satellite Character was more prominent, and changed the now-confusing bit where it said that merely being a love interest doesn't necessarily make you shallow. That whole warning in the second paragraph may still be a bit overdone, though, now that this has a new, less negative name. I'm not sure.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
92 AnotherDuck5th Jan 2013 01:18:36 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
The only problem with it is that it's an editor warning, not a reader warning.
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93 nrjxll5th Jan 2013 01:36:54 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
[up]Eddie prefers those.
94 SeptimusHeap5th Jan 2013 02:42:45 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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I think that section can simply be deleted, possibly replaced with
Not the same thing as The Scrappy or Damsel Scrappy, although they can become these. Often subject to Die for Our Ship.
95 AnotherDuck5th Jan 2013 05:10:00 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
[up][up]Prefers which?
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96 nrjxll5th Jan 2013 06:35:50 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
[up]Eddie has historically expressed a preference for warnings about misusing a trope to be targeted at editors, not readers (although that usually means commented-out, which isn't the case here).
97 AnotherDuck6th Jan 2013 09:49:47 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
[up]Right. That latter bit is the point of my concern. It shouldn't be in the description, but in the code.
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98 SeptimusHeap11th Jan 2013 06:05:52 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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Did U-Z. Now at 566 wicks.

Did T. Now at 452 wicks.

edited 11th Jan '13 6:48:35 AM by SeptimusHeap

99 SeptimusHeap11th Jan 2013 12:00:01 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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Did S, now at 345 wicks.

Doubleposting because I want to know whether Bella and Edward (or whatever their names are) from Twilight are Satellite Love Interests or just random complaining.
If Bella and Edward count then basically every main in every romance novel counts, yeah? I mean, technically they both only exist to be each other's love interest because they is the whole friggin point of the series, but I think that is missing the point of the trope a little bit.

They both do things not related to being each others roamance interest. Barely. Cut them.

Alternative Titles: Shallow Love Interest
28th Sep '12 1:10:47 PM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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