The Studio Ghibli thread

I'm surprised this wasn't here already.

Pretty much for any talk of upcoming releases, favorite movies, and whatnot.

And just because I feel like showing this off again...

I am curious to see From Up On Poppy Hill in about a month and half. (Thank you Madamn and your Reel Anime Festival). I'm curious for two reasons. The first is that this is Goro Miyazaki's to actually show what he can do as a director rather than being constraind by an adaption (Tales From Earthsea was a nasty choice for a directorial debut given the source material was not something that adapts well to the screen).

Secondly I've heard that its a collaboration with his father who handled the original story.

edited 2nd Aug '12 5:24:41 PM by KnightofLsama

After reading the first four Earthsea novels, I really have to wonder why Goro Miyazaki decided to adapt the third and the fourth books. The first one would be the easiest to adapt, because it has relatively simple structure and it also introduces the way magic works in the world of Earthsea. A good adaptation is either both a good movie on its own and faithful to its source material or just a good movie. Goro's Earthsea is neither of those.

My favorite film by Hayao Miyazaki is Laputa: Castle in the Sky. It's probably the best adventure movie I've ever seen. I really love the chemistry between Sheeta and Pazu, the scenery, the action set pieces and Joe Hisaishi's score (the original, I've never listened any of the non-Japanese dubs).

My favorite movie by Isao Takahata by is Hols Prince Of The Sun, which is not a Ghibli movie but it had Hayao Miyazaki as one of the animators. I think Hilda was what sold the movie for me.

Did anyone else who has the 2010 Disney Castle in the Sky DVD get a lithograph with their copy? I bought mine new from Moviestop a while back and it didn't come with one (though I only found it out it was supposed to within the past week).

My favorite Ghibli films are Grave of the Fireflies (which I included in a college film class report on the film about the themes in Anime And Animated Movies, which also included Ghost In The Shell, Nausicaa Of The Valley Of The Wind (another of my favorite Ghibli films), The Lion King, The Iron Giant, and Titan A.E), My Neighbor Totoro (which introduced me to the genre of anime at the wee young age of five), and Spirited Away.

So this happened.

An honest question: why is no one excited about the upcoming Studio Ghibli anything?

So does anyone consider that Lupin the 3rd movie to be Ghibli?

By "that Lupin the Third" movie, do you mean The Castle of Cagliostro, Lupin III: Princess of the Breeze, or the Lupin vs Conan theatrical?

Because the new theatrical certainly isn't, although Princess had a lot in common with a Miyazaki storyline. I do, however, consider Cagliostro to be a Ghibli movie. It was the film that made me start wanting to see more of Miyazaki's work.

Castle of Cagliostro certainly is a Miyazaki movie but not a Ghibli movie.

Um, yeah. That's the only Lupin movie directed by Miyazaki unless i'm misinformed.

I personally think it should count as Ghibli because it tone and art style is rather Ghibli like.

edited 16th Dec '13 5:46:07 AM by AfroWarrior27

Nausicaa is already only an honorary Ghibli movie, after all. I think calling Cagliostro a Ghibli film is a bit of a stretch, even if it is really different in tone from the rest of Lupin III. It's definitely a Miyazaki movie, but I don't think you can call it Ghibli unless you're willing to define Ghibli around the man himself.

I feel like I should mention this Chinese film called Da Hai.

I think most Ghibli fans will like it when/if it gets done.

edited 16th Dec '13 7:09:00 PM by Ekuran

You say it's a stretch calling it a Ghibli film, but okay calling it a Miyazki Movie, but practically every Miyazaki movie is Ghibli film.

But of course not every Ghibli film is a Miyazaki film. Especially not now that he's retiring (for the last time maybe even) and Studio Ghibli continues.

If it's not a Studio Ghibli production I wouldn't call it a Ghibli film, I'd call it Ghibli-esque.

The only reason Nausicaa is "honorary" is because Ghibli would have been the studio had they existed and the later Ghibli films seem to directly follow on from it.

I would agree on calling Castle of Cagliostro a non ghibli film, but I would call it a prototype for Miyazaki, as some characters like Clarisse would later influence his characters like Nausicaä in terms of looks, some personality traits. The count was a prototype in ways for colonel muska (in terms of clothes and the fact they are the only villains that are truly evil by Miyazaki) etc., that's my view on this matter.

I just think it should have some honary mention when it comes to Ghibli movies.

Then what about Panda Kopanda, Anne of Green Gables, Heidi, 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother, Future Boy Conan and Sherlock Hound, which were directed by either Isao Takahata or Hayao Miyazaki and most of them also had Yoshifumi Kondo as animation supervisor, key animator or character designer? I can understand if people consider Nausicaä as a Ghibli movie, because at least that one is owned by Ghibli.

Are you sure Hayao directed those movies or is he apart of the production? Because there's a big difference between the two.

And most of those are tv shows not movies.

edited 17th Dec '13 8:16:45 AM by AfroWarrior27

Isao Takahata is also an essential Ghibli director. Hayao Miyazaki was indeed the chief and also an episode director for Future Boy Conan and Sherlock Hound. I would say Future Boy Conan is much more like Nausicaä and Laputa than Castle of Cagliostro. Hayao Miyazaki also wrote and designed characters for Isao Takahata directed Panda kopanda, which is the perfect successor of Totoro.

Isao Takahata's directorial style in Anne of Green Gables and 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother is very similar as in Grave of the Fireflies and Only Yesterday.

edited 17th Dec '13 9:45:11 AM by harkko

It's true - no one seems to remember that Takahata's movies are Ghibli as well.

And yes, I am okay with calling Cagliostro Miyazaki, because he directed it. That doesn't mean he was with Studio Ghibli at the time.

Cogoliostro was arguably both my first Lupin Film, and my first Miyazaki film (though I didn't discover that fact about the latter until much later).

Ghibli will always be around to punch the Animation Age Ghetto in the face.

God bless them.

@11- "that" implies singular, and you didn't mention Miyazaki. Since it's a Ghibli thread, I assumed you meant either the Miyazaki film, or were comparing one of the movies made this year. I figured you didn't mean the rumour about Miyazaki's return to the Lupin franchise. (At this point, I think rumour is overestimating it, I call it speculation.)

@18- If you're going to start mentioning TV series, then Isao Takahata worked with Hayao Miyazaki to produce the second half of the Lupin III (Green Jacket) series. As far as IMDB is aware, though, Isao didn't have any direct impact on the Cagliostro film. Several of the character designs used during his work in the Lupin franchise were continued into Ghibli studio films, proper.

@15- what do you mean by, "Follow on from"?

@3- Hey, how come Hols: Prince of the Sun isn't on Miyazaki's page? Why isn't that counted as Miyazaki's first film?

edited 20th Dec '13 10:00:43 PM by crazysamaritan

Nausicaa is like the inception of several elements of Ghibli.

If you watch it later, you will probably think "Haven't I watched this scene play out before?"

In short, they share the same DNA. Nausicaa is like their ancestor.

I thought that was a Miyazaki thing. Castle in the Sky was built on many of his work on Lupin III, including the men in black suits, Count Cagliostro, young Clarisse, Professor Lombach, and the Lambda robots.