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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#501: Jul 30th 2012 at 8:33:36 PM

Chosing to do is suicide which is still wrong.
... No. Suicide is tragic, yes, but calling it "wrong" is a big slap in the face to anyone who has ever experienced true, justifiable suicidal thoughts.

And there's also self-sacrifice. If my getting killed saved at least two other people, that isn't wrong in the least.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
LizardBite Shameless Self-Promoter from Two Galaxies Over Since: Jan, 2001
#502: Jul 30th 2012 at 8:33:51 PM

@ Shirow: Argonians most definitely do count

edited 30th Jul '12 8:34:27 PM by LizardBite

JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
Left Eye
#503: Jul 30th 2012 at 8:46:17 PM

You know, I don't think I've ever met a single friendly lizardman. Sure, I've met ones that haven't tried to kill me, but they're always gruff and mean-spirited. And they usually try and kill me.

Games need to cut the scalies some slack. And give them a better name than "Lizardmen". "Saurians" works if you ask me. Less generic, still applicable, and not gender-biased.

They're recruit-able in Tactics Ogre, granted only in the heat of battle.

As for naming, Bangaa consider being called lizards a racist epithet.

Umbran Climax
ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
Down with the Privileged🪓
#504: Jul 30th 2012 at 8:48:42 PM

[up][up] Reallllllyyyy like sap.

[up] So we should stop calling them that!

Wait, the main character in Final Fantasy XII was raised by a Bangaa? I never noticed because I literally spent more time watching the opening cutscenes than playing the actual game thanks to the Camera Screw.

Bleye knows Sabers.
LizardBite Shameless Self-Promoter from Two Galaxies Over Since: Jan, 2001
#505: Jul 30th 2012 at 8:57:46 PM

[up]Assuming my memory is correct. As I recall, Vaan lived with his brother up until said brother got killed at the end of the game's tutorial level, and a Bangaa merchant took him in. Can't remember if him and his brother lived with the merchant beforehand, or if he was only adopted after the Empire invaded.

NLK Mo A Since: May, 2010
#506: Jul 30th 2012 at 9:15:13 PM

The lack of Bangaa characters in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance and its sequel offends me.

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Blurring One just might from one hill away to the regular Bigfoot jungle. Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
One just might
#507: Jul 30th 2012 at 9:18:38 PM

My memory is fuzzy, but isn't the Bangaas are somewhat furry in FFXII?

If a chicken crosses the road and nobody else is around to see it, does the road move beneath the chicken instead?
JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
Left Eye
#508: Jul 30th 2012 at 10:12:12 PM

[up]A few of them are, but not very.

Umbran Climax
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#509: Jul 30th 2012 at 10:19:51 PM

@NLK: What are you talking about? I remember having tons of Bangaa in my party.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Blurring One just might from one hill away to the regular Bigfoot jungle. Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
One just might
#510: Jul 30th 2012 at 10:24:52 PM

[up]I think it is about unique NP Cs.

If a chicken crosses the road and nobody else is around to see it, does the road move beneath the chicken instead?
CPFMfan I am serious. This is my serious face. from A Whale's Vagina Since: Aug, 2010
I am serious. This is my serious face.
#511: Jul 30th 2012 at 11:46:29 PM

I'd just like to say that JF Sargent is a douchebag.

  • "I think I offended everyone with a lower than 30 intelligence score." (Actual quote from his blog).
  • "Sorry for stepping on your privilege, nitwits." (Actual quote from his Twitter)
  • "I kicked the hornets nest and angry virgins flew out! 5 Prejudices That Video Games Can't Seem To Get Over." (Again, an actual quote from his Twitter, July 18th).

edited 30th Jul '12 11:47:57 PM by CPFMfan

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saintbraeburn Saint Braeburn: from Dysfunctional California Since: Jun, 2012
Saint Braeburn:
#512: Jul 30th 2012 at 11:54:58 PM

[up]

Honestly, I hope Cracked fires him.

Everything is Possible. But somethings are more Probable than others.
VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
#513: Jul 31st 2012 at 12:11:55 AM

And he's a bad writer?

Sounds like a Dunning-Kruger example to me.

ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
Down with the Privileged🪓
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#515: Jul 31st 2012 at 1:02:43 AM

Cheese.

So he's mentioning privilege now? He's not a cis male WASP like I presume he is?

I kind of hope they fire him too, if this is the best kind of article he can write that makes wild assumptions about peoples' base morality. :/

I liked it better when Questionable Casting was called WTH Casting Agency
CPFMfan I am serious. This is my serious face. from A Whale's Vagina Since: Aug, 2010
I am serious. This is my serious face.
#516: Jul 31st 2012 at 1:07:48 AM

He at least looks like a WASP.

He's a douche to be sure, but it's not like this is the best he can write. This article, as well as these two, are pretty interesting and have some funny captions *

. I do hope he gets fired though (can you even fire a freelancer?). The comments illustrate that the readers now have a deep, burning hatred of him.

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IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#517: Jul 31st 2012 at 1:10:04 AM

... No. Suicide is tragic, yes, but calling it "wrong" is a big slap in the face to anyone who has ever experienced true, justifiable suicidal thoughts. And there's also self-sacrifice. If my getting killed saved at least two other people, that isn't wrong in the least.

Suicide is possibly one of the most selfish thing you can do. You are dead and you no longer ave to deal with your problems, but your friends will have to deal with the loss of a friend, your parents loss of a son/daughter, your sister/brother loss f sibling, etc. iI's exactly the same result as if you murdered somebody else, except the people that you've hurt is different.

And I question the morality of self sacrifice as well. Have you asked your parent if they are willing to sacrifice their son/daughter for two or more stranger that they do not know? What about your siblings? Friends? Have you asked every single people who cared for you if they are willing to make a sacrifice (ie you) for whatever it is you are sacrificing for? When you die, it's not just you dying but also everyone who cares for you suffers.

edited 31st Jul '12 1:11:06 AM by IraTheSquire

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#518: Jul 31st 2012 at 1:16:11 AM

However, you can't forget that many people grappling with suicidal thoughts are not in a position to make rational decisions about whether or not they should die. Calling someone who committed suicide due to mental illness "selfish" is about as valid as saying that somebody selfishly died of tuberculosis. They have agency, yes, but the very nature of the illness they're suffering is compromising it.

[down][down][down]Good point. I'll admit I didn't consider things from that angle. There are definitely times people should be able to choose when and how they go out.

edited 31st Jul '12 2:08:03 AM by Durazno

IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#519: Jul 31st 2012 at 1:18:23 AM

It is a selfish action. The person who does it isn't necessarily so because s/he might not be to blame. Hence why it is tragic, because most of the time people are forced to do it despite the fact that it is wrong.

edited 31st Jul '12 1:21:20 AM by IraTheSquire

saintbraeburn Saint Braeburn: from Dysfunctional California Since: Jun, 2012
Saint Braeburn:
#520: Jul 31st 2012 at 1:19:28 AM

Suicide is tragic.

Unless Elves do it, then its hilarious.

Everything is Possible. But somethings are more Probable than others.
honorius from The Netherlands Since: Jun, 2010
#521: Jul 31st 2012 at 1:57:50 AM

[up][up][up] If you're suffering without any hope on a better situation, shouldn't you be able to decide what you want to do with your life instead of others? Even if those others are your friends. What you said could be reversed: isn't it wrong to keep a person suffering because of you?

edited 31st Jul '12 1:58:33 AM by honorius

If any question why we died/ Tell them, because our fathers lied -Rudyard Kipling
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#522: Jul 31st 2012 at 2:04:13 AM

*looks for the topic*

Nope, can't find it.

This thread has turned into a roller-coaster. Super lock time.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
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