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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#1: Jul 5th 2012 at 5:10:45 PM

The pic works for the Madonna-Whore Complex I guess, but this isn't the same thing and it's going to make people think that it is.

edited 6th Jul '12 1:59:12 PM by lexicon

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#2: Jul 5th 2012 at 8:01:55 PM

I agree that it seems to be illustrating something different (and I think this image might actually be better for Madonna-Whore Complex than its current pic) and could probably cause confusion.

The first example that came to mind were Chloe and June from Dont Trust The B In Apartment 23. Here's one pic, which I think isn't bad but we could do better. Also, now that I looked at the work page's image a variation of that might work well too.

If there are no other suggestions by tomorrow and the example is OK, I can probably take a more illustrative screencap from some episode.

edited 6th Jul '12 10:03:16 AM by bananasloth

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#3: Jul 5th 2012 at 9:11:38 PM

[up] Those aren't too bad; I definitely agree that the Sinfest pic that's on the page would work better on Madonna-Whore Complex.

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#4: Jul 6th 2012 at 3:00:11 AM

I agree with the Sinfest image on Madonna-Whore Complex instead.

Madonna-Whore Complex is essentially White Feminine And Black Feminine, but doesn't need to apply to a contrast between two characters.

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#5: Jul 7th 2012 at 12:22:15 PM

Yeah, the current image would be better in Madonna-Whore Complex. Good picture, just not the right trope.

And as a replacement I also nominate the first image of the OP.

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#6: Jul 7th 2012 at 12:42:38 PM

I support the first image in #2, and think the Sinfest image is far better than the current MWC image, which I can barely read.

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#7: Jul 7th 2012 at 1:59:46 PM

So I rewatched all 7 episodes but couldn't find a single frame that would have worked for the page. Anyway, here are the two images from my earlier post (the first pic cropped to just the girls, the second with Van Der Beek edited out and cropped down), both at 250:

edited 7th Jul '12 2:06:24 PM by bananasloth

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#8: Jul 7th 2012 at 2:49:12 PM

The pic has been moved to Madonna-Whore Complex. Either of [up] are good, but I lean toward the first just because the "dark" girl is kinda overwhelming the "light" girl in the second.

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#9: Jul 7th 2012 at 3:10:17 PM

Those seem very "just two faces"-ey to me.

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#10: Jul 7th 2012 at 4:03:14 PM

[up] I think the clothes, postures, and expressions carry enough context for this case.

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#11: Jul 7th 2012 at 4:37:26 PM

I agree. I think they give you enough context.

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#12: Jul 7th 2012 at 4:40:55 PM

I think the top one in #7 doesn't show anything more than a dark and a bright girl. The bottom does a much better job of showing the personality traits.

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#13: Jul 7th 2012 at 11:21:56 PM

I think both of them work well, due to posture, facial expression, etc., but I lean towards the first because they are given equal prominence.

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#15: Jul 8th 2012 at 6:24:33 AM

Isn't the second one the wrong way round?

Also, from which manga is it?

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#16: Jul 8th 2012 at 6:26:54 AM

Not a fan of either. The ones from post 5 seem much clearer and to the point.

edited 8th Jul '12 6:27:18 AM by lu127

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#18: Jul 8th 2012 at 8:16:18 AM

Post #5? There are suggestions in that one? It points to the "first image in OP", which also has no suggestions.

I think Haruhi/Mikuru works well.

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#19: Jul 8th 2012 at 8:20:28 AM

Bleh, I meant post 7.

Haruhi/Mikuru seems particularly bad. Nothing says Light/Dark or gives any contrast. For all we know, it's Haruhi abusing Mikuru.

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#20: Jul 8th 2012 at 8:28:54 AM

The pics from 7 are good, in particular the second. Haruhi/Mikuru doesn't work for me.

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#21: Jul 8th 2012 at 8:44:48 AM

Because a hand on the shoulder definitely implies abuse. Especially with Mikuru leaning her head towards Haruhi. Please remove your fanon while evaluating the pictures.

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#22: Jul 8th 2012 at 8:55:15 AM

I cannot have fanon in a show I haven't watched. Please don't make assumptions.

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#23: Jul 8th 2012 at 9:29:42 AM

I like the 2nd in 7 because the dark girl is making an aggressive pose and the light girl is making a shy pose.

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#24: Jul 8th 2012 at 10:32:07 AM

Presuming abuse is a Red Paint assumption, though. And yes, you can, but that's not relevant for the thread.

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