Magic: The Gathering (Spoiler-free)

WHAT DID YOU DO, SORIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

I've been waiting for that. :)

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>.<

Crummy page topper is crummy.

edited 28th Mar '15 12:18:53 AM by windweaver

Personally I think they just had a bad breakup.

Ugin: "Where's Nahiri?"

Sorin: *Awkward silence*

Well, that's ominous.

edited 28th Mar '15 1:41:53 AM by Elfive

I saw some speculation that she's been compleated, which would be an interesting way to start bringing the Phyrexia and Eldrazi plots into contact with each other, but seems a little unlikely compared to vampirisation or angelising (exaltation?) seeing as Sorin is right there.

The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable

Planeswalkers can't be compleated.

A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit in.

Sorin: "Yeah..about that, Ugin old pal. Nahiri and I had a pretty bad breakup. She's been suing me for alimony and child support for the last several centuries. She also took out a restraining order on me. I'm not suppose to be on the same plane she's on. You mind taking one for the team and call her yourself?"

edited 28th Mar '15 5:14:37 PM by nightwyrm_zero

Has it been said that explicitly? I am aware that Phyrexians can't hold a planeswalker spark (by dint of not being properly alive) but it would still be possible that a planeswalker can be compleated - possibly with difficulty - but loses their spark in the process.

edited 28th Mar '15 5:14:26 PM by Noaqiyeum

The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable

Yeah, that is correct. Planeswalkers can be compleated, but they stop being Planeswalkers in the process.

No, in fact, merely having a Spark makes you immune to phyresis. That's why David Tennant Venser transferred his Spark into Karn to save him. Once Karn was re-sparked, he was free from the Praetors.

Planeswalkers must be previously de-sparked to be compleated, not the other way around.

edited 28th Mar '15 6:09:49 PM by 2Zak

They call it the Rumour Mill because every time one specific guy posts I definitely feel cards going from my library to my graveyard

Huh, seems like I completely misremembered that then. My bad. o_O

Interesting. Does the spark have to be "active", or can a dormant spark still protect one from compleation?

We haven't seen whether the activeness is relevant or not.

edited 28th Mar '15 6:59:24 PM by Funden

As I've said over at reddit....Nahiri is now an 18/18 Eldrazi (with 18 casting cost obviously). Probably Annihilator 8 too.

I'm reading this because it's interesting. I think. Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over.

Jossed! Annihilator is at 8 on the Storm Scale, and apparently quite hard to develop, and Maro has commented that he thinks the same flavour can be achieved without the same mechanic.

So even if she is an Eldrazi, the odds of seeing Annihilator at all are not good.

I would assume that, in case a dormant Spark didn't protect the holder from phyresis, the process of compleation would be traumatic enough that it would trigger its ignition, saving them from it.

I mean, Narset's Spark ignited with something far less traumatic than being turned into an unliving abomination where flesh and metal interweave organically with ceramic plates grown from your own bones. So I feel pretty safe about this.

Note: All my info comes from Doug's and Maro's tumblrs and the scraps I could gather at mtgsalvation's wiki. If someone read the novel where Karn is, ahem, Liberated, it could contradict what I just said. I'm anyways pretty sure either Doug, Maro or both said the Spark makes you immune (which is reasonable, since neither Elspeth, Koth, Tezzeret nor post-New Phyrexia Karn show the slightest hint of phyresis, and all of them were waist-deep in Phyrexia's proverbial shit back in Mirrodin), but the details about re-Sparking Karn and what happened after are a bit fuzzier (mtgsalvation says Karn was freed "moments after" Venser gave his life to transfer his spark).

EDIT: Not directly related with Sparks and Phyrexia but Doug has just kicked my theory about the traumatic-ness of phyresis bursting your Spark aflame in the butt.

edited 28th Mar '15 10:37:51 PM by 2Zak

They call it the Rumour Mill because every time one specific guy posts I definitely feel cards going from my library to my graveyard

In the comic, Tezzeret got an injection to save him from phyresis, and Venser was specifically dying from pthisis.

It's something that could save you, but I guess it's not a guarantee, huh?

Someone should ask Doug about this.

My local Hastings had a game day draft. I ran Bant as I a lot of the good small creatures coming were green, and my first pull was Ojutai's Command was in my first pack. I won first place, though I had a by in the second round and every game went to three rounds. I walked a way with 7 booster backs and a promo Suspension Field.

The monuments are really good in draft. The are extra mana/color fixing fairly early and a good bomb late game.

But phtisis is not phyresis, I think. They're related, but pthisis is basically "magic radiation-induced cancer" while phyresis is "magic T Virus". I believe Yawgmoth used pthisis as a base to get phyresis, but they're not the same thing.

I didn't remember that bit about Tezzeret, though. But it still wouldn't explain why Elspeth or Koth aren't infected, for example. As for Karn, well, if the Spark doesn't make you immune there's always the chance Venser could have done something about that since he sacrificed his Spark and life to save Karn (and he was with Melira there, the only known person in the Multiverse that can actually heal phyresis).

edited 29th Mar '15 8:35:52 PM by 2Zak

They call it the Rumour Mill because every time one specific guy posts I definitely feel cards going from my library to my graveyard

I thought Venser was dying from blinkmoth addiction, not phthisis.

It says Pthisis in Quest for Karn (which is awful. I would avoid reading it if you can).

As for Tezz being inoculated, it's on the first page of Dark Discoveries, Part III.

edited 29th Mar '15 9:31:24 PM by Funden

On Nahiri's location:

I can see her having been "Eldrazi Conscripted". That seems the most likely out of the theories stated here.

I don't think her being Avacyn makes much sense, since Sorin was looking for her and such, and wondering where she was, after Avacyn was restored and he knew exactly where she was, compelling as that idea is.

As for phyrexia-related things, they seem unlikely, more by virtue of them being too unrelated to make sense. If they wanted to connect phyrexian and Eldrazi things, I don't think they would do it in such a weird way, like "someone who fights these monsters and is entirely defined by her struggle with them is now related to these other monsters for some... reason...?"

edited 30th Mar '15 6:56:49 AM by ImperialSunlight

''The eternal question of reality, it still stands today.''

She's alive, but trapped in the Blind Eternities. She was seeking a way to properly traverse and fight within them so as to truly kill the Eldrazi, however much like Ob-Nixilis she is a victim of the mending, as she directly traversing the Blind Eternities when it happened.

She holds a grudge against Sorin because he invited Ugin over for tea but not her.