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Though I agree with you about Magneto I wasn't really talking about him, but the set up of the fight in Mainstream. I've already stated several my issues with it. (I also just can't see Todd or Fred teaming up with Duncan)

Personally I think that would of been a good episode to introduce another mutant team like the Nasty Boys or the Hellions-and by extension their bosses (Sinister/Hellfire Club). Basically giving Xavier and Magneto a message "Thanks a lot for blowing the Masquerade" to show that there are other players out there and that they weren't happy.

edited 12th Oct '12 10:37:42 PM by WorldTurtle

Huh. Judging from the covers, the new Nova book kinda looks like it'll be some sort of cute coming-of-age story, of course I imagine if anyone could insert scenes of, say, someone being anally violated with their own intestines into such a story, it would be Jeph Loeb.

I also suspect this new Nova is something of an insertion of Loeb's dead son. They're both called Sam.

Yeah that's what a lot of people think. They also think that he came from the last place Dick was aka the Cancerverse which is Sam is based on Sam Loeb would be darkly ironic.

Okay I don't follow comics all that much-but when did Toad start looking like a fat version of his Ultimate Counterpart? Assuming the comic I just looked at was the 616 continuity. He was acting as the janitor at Wolverine's school.

Captain Marvel continues to be awesome. Kieron Gillen continues to be one of the best comic writers ever. And X-Factor continues to be amazing.

However, the other big book out today was the Marvel NOW! Point One issue. My thoughts on that:

Bendis's short about Peter Quill losing his mother was well-written, even if it's covering old ground (I've actually read the comic featuring Quill's origin), and gives no indication what his Guardians of the Galaxy will be like. Of the five shorts in this book, this might be the least useful. It's good, but it doesn't tell us anything about Got G.

Loeb had a short about the new Nova. I'm going to say something that will blow your mind: It's good. No, seriously, it's good. It's well-written and the new Nova seems interesting. Crazy, I know. I still have trouble believing it, but Loeb has actually written something legitimately good, for the first time in years. Insanity. It's raised my expectations for the new Nova series.

Gillen's Young Avengers short has Kid Loki recruit Miss America through trickery. As always, I have no clue what Loki's game is, but as always, I'm desperate to see where it goes. Also notable: We get a reminder that, even though he looks like a child, Loki's still a god, and still stronger than any human. I am so, so excited for Young Avengers.

Fraction and Allred's Ant-Man short was great. Wonderful writing, and Allred-ian art. I love Mike Allred's art. FF is looking very promising.

Hopeless wrote a great, bizarre Forge short. It's fucked up in a wonderful way. Cable & X-Force looks like it'll be very good.

And, finally, the framing device involving Fury, Jr. Man, it sucked. Nick Spencer probably can't really be blamed for that. No one could've made it anything less than shit. Even so, of the books this Point One is promoting, Secret Avengers is easily the least interesting. Maybe Spencer can turn a potential turd into gold, but honestly, I'm not expecting much. No disrespect to Spencer - I adored his Cloak & Dagger Spider-Island mini - but I just don't expect Secret Avengers to be particularly good.

This. Is. Amazing.◊

It's a silly, cliched concept.

And yet Gillen made it awesome.

So, for all the Journey into Mystery readers out there, does anyone think it would be a good idea to create a subpage in Loki's page, for tropes that apply to Kid Loki? There's not much about him at the moment, and what little there is is muddled in with regular Loki.

That would definitely be a good idea. Kid Loki is a totally different character from adult Loki. They do share some traits - they're both tricksters who can't be trusted even when they're telling the truth - but they're still different characters.

Huh. Battle Fever J apparently exists in the Marvel multiverse. I know Marvel bankrolled it, and it was originally going to be about Captain America (before it was turned into a multinational team made up of people who were all born in Japan but RAISED in other countries), but I didn't know they considered it an official property of theirs.

Everything is in the Marvel multiverse, except the DC multiverse.

And even then, the crossovers make that iffy too.

I shit you not, there is actually an alternate Earth for crossovers that are never explained (ie. if Superman teams up with Spider-Man with no explanation for why they're in the same universe). BEHOLD, Earth-7642!

No

I don't even READ Doctor Strange and my knee jerk reaction is "No. Oh god no"

Thing is, Martin's interpretation is in line with Strange's early days. He had minimal interaction with other characters, aside from doing the occasional cameo, and prior to Defenders, did mostly stick to himself. Even with the Defenders, he mostly did his own thing in hi solo title.

But don't worry, there's pretty much no chance Martin will end up writing Strange. He said he wanted a contract stating anything he does can't be retconned later. Marvel would never agree to that.

I'm pretty sure that at this point Doctor Who is less complicated then the Marvel verse, take away their power to Retcon and their entire universe might just implode. :P

Well, as far as the epic fantasy thing goes, Conan The Barbarian was a part of the MU once (and in fact Set and Shuma-Gorath were originally Bigger Bads in Howard's pulp novels), though I think he's since been Exiled from Continuity due to copyright stuff. Still means that sort of thing in Marvel isn't entirely unprecedented.

Doctor Who was also part of the Marvel Universe, for all that's worth. Though I do think Connan has been officially Retconed (or something)

edited 20th Oct '12 7:07:47 PM by LMage

I don't think Conan was retconned, he just doesn't get referenced. And yeah, the Doctor had a run-in with the original Death's Head. Shrunk him from Transformer size to human size.

According to the Wikia at least, Doctor Who is Earth-5.

If George R.R. Martin joined Marvel... The amount of characters Marvel has would drop REALLY fast.

Faster or slower than in a Kyle/Yost story, you think?

Remender's already doing his part in depopulating Marvel.

edited 20th Oct '12 7:25:17 PM by Tiamatty

Pshaw. Remender wishes he could be Kyost. What other writer (this was Yost on his own) wiped out an entire subspecies of humanity within a single two-page spread?

Remender does like killing people, though. He actually overshot his estimate of eight deaths this year by one. So far he's killed Jamie Braddock, Scream, Hybrid, Fantomex, Death Adder, Gateway, Megatak, John Steele, and Eddie freaking Brock. And that's being generous and not counting alternate realities (Sinister Iceman), off-panel deaths (the first Toxin), people brought back just to die again (Mar-Vell, Bennett Brant), or Eric O'Grady, who died but then Came Back Wrong as a Descendant.

edited 20th Oct '12 7:38:38 PM by HamburgerTime

Megatak might not count, since he was introduced in the same arc he was killed in. He wasn't an established character.