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Morenatsu (Feedback Requested):

 1 Komodin, Fri, 25th May '12 3:55:58 PM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Sonic Wiki Curator
Morenatsu... hm.

Okay, I'll be brief here: This work already has two devilheads to no angelheads. Is this work pornography or not?
 2 shimaspawn, Fri, 25th May '12 4:05:59 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Those who have played it have said that there's only sex scenes at the good ends. Someone filled out a form of it in the content violations form. It didn't sound that bad and everyone is over 16 and close in age.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 3 A Groupie, Fri, 25th May '12 5:26:27 PM from City of Angelic Devils
sick of it all
To be honest, I haven't played it yet, but reading its page and about it elsewhere really does seem like it got an unfair shake just because it is from the Furry Fandom and Everyone Is Gay. Unless there's some really pedo stuff there, it actually does seem to have at least as much plot/sex ratio as, say, Katawa Shoujo which got a pass. Especially if the good sexy ends are achieved via relationship building and Character Development rather than Victim Falls For Rapist or such - that aesop itself, if handled well, IMO makes it worthy of being considered Porn with Plot.

And it's also incredibly hard to tell age with the Funny Animal from looks, so I'd say that if it says they're 16 and up and not acting specifically "childlike, " this should get a pass.

(ninja'd to clarify and add a point)

edited 25th May '12 5:37:11 PM by AGroupie

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From what I've heard this just doesn't sound that bad. Or at least not porny or pedobaity. Not something I would play, but this site doesn't run according to my tastes.

 5 Akagikiba 2, Fri, 25th May '12 6:24:17 PM from The TV Tropes Forums
Scallywag
I was under the understanding that it doesn't have any porn yet but its still in its demo stage. As work on it progresses, endings will feature erotic porn scenes. I believe that the purpose of this game is masturbatory.

[down] Because it's planned for the game. The game is still in its demo stage.

edited 25th May '12 6:28:37 PM by Akagikiba2

There's no explicit content yet? Then how can we justify cutting it?

edited 25th May '12 6:25:03 PM by Arha

 7 shimaspawn, Fri, 25th May '12 6:26:47 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
If it's just sex at the endings, and the good endings at that, then it's not porn. There's also apparently talk of making an alternate version of the ending that's just hugging and kissing that keeps the plot. Based on that, it's plot with sex in it.

edited 25th May '12 6:37:38 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
^^^ Well, if the sex gets added, it can be reviewed later. But taking what Shimaspawn said into account, it'd probably pass then too.

I'm not seeing the problem here, but it's possible I'm missing something. Unless the story is about an hour long with planned sex scenes of ten minutes apiece or something like that it just doesn't sound like enough.

 9 Enzeru, Fri, 25th May '12 7:29:16 PM from Orlando, FL χಠ♥
icon by implodingoracle
[up][up]If you're talking about what I said about it having a more "huggy" version, that's just something the fans want a lot (and I doubt it's going to happen, but I'm not part of the project team so I wouldn't know if they already have that planned or not).

@sex scenes: I've heard you can already access the ones in the already completed routes, but like with the hugging, I don't know if they plan to implement that for all the routes.

Also, woah, how'd I miss this thread?

edited 25th May '12 7:30:46 PM by Enzeru

 10 shimaspawn, Fri, 25th May '12 7:30:12 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Ah, sorry. Even so, you did mention that sex was only at the good endings and that there was a lot of story before that.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
It contains shotacon aka pedophilia. It needs to be cut.

 12 Pyrite, Sat, 26th May '12 3:13:32 AM from Right. Beneath. You. Relationship Status: Hiding
Until further notice
Proof?
Not a substitute for a formal medical consultation.
 13 Septimus Heap, Sat, 26th May '12 3:16:14 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
[up][up]We are just cleaning up shotacon from all manner of misuse.

So that tells us absolutely nothing. And even correct shotacon =/= paedo-bait.

It contains shotacon aka pedophilia. It needs to be cut.

Please give us the names and ages of the characters that are are underage, detail the sexual content involving them, and tell us how the sexual exploitation of the characters is done in a way to sexual titillate pedophiles rather that for other reasons (such as telling a compelling and thoughtful story about child sexual abuse, or fanservice of teens in a work intended for teens).

If you can't do that, don't say things like this.

Plus, we looked for the supposed shota character. We couldn't find him.

 16 shimaspawn, Sat, 26th May '12 7:53:39 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
There is no shotacon. It was one of the works misusing that term. It referred to a 16 year old having a slimmer build than the rest of the bodybuilder types. Not anything to do with paedophilia. It got caught during our clean up of the term.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 17 lu 127, Sat, 26th May '12 7:55:30 AM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
I agree, though it looks like we missed the character sheet.
小さく揺れた向日葵
 18 shimaspawn, Sat, 26th May '12 8:00:56 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
And at least one reference on the main. In Western stuff they'd probably call the character type a twink. They're adults, but it's a build thing.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
"It referred to a 16 year old having a slimmer build than the rest of the bodybuilder types."

16 year old? There you go. Pedophilia.

edited 26th May '12 9:28:06 AM by KaiserMazoku

 20 Septimus Heap, Sat, 26th May '12 9:34:56 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
[up]16 year old is far too old for paedophilia. Get your facts right, Mr. Mazoku.

You're joking right? 16 is two years below a legal adult. And if someone's not an adult, they're a child. And if a child is being sexualized, that's pedophilia. I do have my facts right.

Let's say that folks have to be under 13 for pedo unless they LOOK like little kids, ok?

No, let's say that they have to be under 18 because 18 is the age someone is an adult, and any age under that, they're a child.

 24 Kuro Bara Hime, Sat, 26th May '12 9:41:24 AM from Somewhere...I think Relationship Status: Mu
☆♥☆
16 is the legal age of consent in a lot of states -_-

"16 is the legal age of consent in a lot of states -_-"

And you have to be 18 to be in porn.

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