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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1: Apr 21st 2012 at 3:50:51 AM

The caption on the image in this page came up in Ask The Tropers as the subject of an Edit War between these two forms:

  1. You want a dwarf? There's your friggin' dwarf. You want some better graphics? Screw you. Dwarves can do lots of stuff. Like digging. Can you dig? Hell no. Play Dwarf Fortress
  2. You want a dwarf? There's your dwarf.

So, which one stays, which one goes?

edited 21st Apr '12 3:51:04 AM by SeptimusHeap

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#2: Apr 21st 2012 at 4:11:03 AM

I prefer the first one. It represents the game better, doesn't feel cut off like the short one does, and I find it funnier. Swearing isn't forbidden here; it's fine in quotes, and we have whole tropes like Atomic F-Bomb and that index.

[down] True; that didn't register at first. I'd rather have the original one, with "real" swearing, since that is the original quote.

edited 21st Apr '12 5:22:53 AM by Telcontar

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OneMore Since: Oct, 2010
#3: Apr 21st 2012 at 4:47:21 AM

Except the version of #1 in the first post is Bowdlerised.

[down] Same with me.

edited 21st Apr '12 6:04:17 AM by OneMore

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#4: Apr 21st 2012 at 5:48:37 AM

I'd say put the uncensored version of the longer caption up.

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#5: Apr 21st 2012 at 6:05:58 AM

Just put the uncensored version, it's way funnier.

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#6: Apr 21st 2012 at 6:43:39 AM

I play with better graphics... :/

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EKK Since: Apr, 2011
#7: Apr 21st 2012 at 9:29:20 AM

TV Tropes is supposed to be family friendly - that doesn't mean that we can't have any cursing, but seriously, the old "tourette caption" adds nothing of value to the article. Superfluous cursing is pretty much what we're trying to avoid per our Family Friendliness policy. Surely someone can make up something wittier than a bunch of shock words.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#8: Apr 21st 2012 at 9:35:02 AM

Uncensored caption is fine.

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#9: Apr 21st 2012 at 9:51:50 AM

Just use the uncensored version of the first choice.

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#10: Apr 21st 2012 at 11:19:07 AM

What's the line from, anyway? I've tried searching for both the "tame" and "not tame" versions of the lines on Google, and the first result is almost always TV Tropes itself. In which case, "uncensored" would really just be swearing for the sake of swearing, which is rather crass. If this is an actual line that used a lot of "fucks", though, then I'm okay with the uncensored.

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#11: Apr 21st 2012 at 12:28:26 PM

I believe it was a user from 4chan.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#12: Apr 21st 2012 at 12:40:19 PM

The uncensored version is:

You want a dwarf? There's your fucking dwarf. You want some better graphics? Fuck you. Dwarves can do lots of stuff. Like digging. Can you dig? Hell no. Play Dwarf Fortress.

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Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#13: Apr 21st 2012 at 5:18:57 PM

[up] I don't think we need to censor that.

EnragedFilia Since: Oct, 2010
#14: Apr 22nd 2012 at 1:45:33 AM

I don't think that a user from 4chan is necessarily the best source for a page image caption, although I do find it funny (in both forms). Leave the uncensored version unless whoever started the edit war actually had a good reason for it that isn't "profanity is bad, mmkay?"

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#15: Apr 22nd 2012 at 6:24:21 AM

I think it's condescending in a way the game isn't. And as I mentioned, you can have better graphics, since it's easy to get a graphic patch for it. Or make one on your own. Also, I can dig.

It's simply false and gives the wrong impression of the game.

edited 22nd Apr '12 6:24:50 AM by Feather7603

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#16: Apr 22nd 2012 at 6:42:46 AM

[up] I'd like to respectfully disagree with some of that. Whilst I do not play DF, my brother does, and according to him the long version fits the attitude of the game better. The graphics are the default and have not been "improved" officially (though patches are readily available and the game is made to support them, as far as I can tell). And can any human dig like a dwarf? Apparrantly a lone dwarf can, in two days, dig to hell with a copper pickaxe.

[down] Fair enough.

edited 22nd Apr '12 6:59:44 AM by Telcontar

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#17: Apr 22nd 2012 at 6:52:56 AM

I used to play, then I stopped due to time issues.

I don't think a game where patches are accommodated for so they're very easy to make can accurately be described as fuck you.

The attitude is more like, "You're on your own,"*

or, "Have fun!"

Now, I don't care about the profanity. I just thing the quote is crappy and misleading.

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OneMore Since: Oct, 2010
#18: Apr 23rd 2012 at 11:31:29 PM

What about a crowner for the caption?

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#19: Apr 24th 2012 at 6:55:42 PM

For the record, the long version of the quote is based on that meme where people describe mundane things in over-the-top MANLY cursing gushing. e.g. "you see this shit, it's fucking BACON, it's the most delicious fucking thing on the goddamn planet".

(sure wish i had a cite for that)

e: Found it. p sure the image caption is lifted directly from the DF version of the meme

edited 24th Apr '12 7:03:45 PM by billybobfred

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#20: Apr 24th 2012 at 11:50:42 PM

[up]That makes me want to get rid of that quotation even more...

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Bedelato Since: Aug, 2009
#21: May 8th 2012 at 10:12:40 PM

I'd say keep it the way it is. Pointless meme or not, misleading or not, it's still funny. That's what really counts.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#22: May 8th 2012 at 10:15:29 PM

That is not true. "Meme" and "misleading" are among the worst things an image/caption can be.

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#23: May 14th 2012 at 5:31:18 PM

"This is Urist McDorf. His IQ is negative. You're get to manage hundreds of these poor bastards. Have Fun."

edited 14th May '12 5:32:16 PM by TheInferno

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#24: May 14th 2012 at 11:18:09 PM

That's better than "You want a dwarf? Here's your dwarf.", but not as good (in my opinion) as the long version, with or without swearing. Caption crowner?

edited 14th May '12 11:19:04 PM by Telcontar

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
EnragedFilia Since: Oct, 2010
#25: May 14th 2012 at 11:36:22 PM

How about stealing a Linux slogan? "Here is your dwarf. Make your own parachute. Welcome to Dwarf Fortress"


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