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The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations):

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edited 12th Feb '13 2:10:16 PM by Fighteer

 7551 shimaspawn, Sun, 15th Jul '12 9:23:19 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
There was discussion. Somewhere in this 300 page thread. We've talked a lot in here.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
I'm an Irene!
It's because you could have sex with 13-year olds. Most consider the cutoff age(initially the settings may have influence, like if it's set in the middle ages where 13 is close to being 18, etc.) at about 15. Some may say 14.

But 13... that, yeah, I can see and get the point where he's coming from.

The reason why FATAL is different is that it's extremely notable and simply gets a stubbed page to note that it had influence on the Tabletop RPG community. That, and nobody read the Rulebook, so perhaps we don't know if it really is pedophile-pandering, or some misread/misinformation. Thankfully, I'm looking for one and can tell you if it really does give that option.
 7553 Kuro Bara Hime, Sun, 15th Jul '12 9:28:25 PM from Somewhere...I think Relationship Status: Mu
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Well, you could say Bliss Stage is notable, what with seeming to be somewhat popular and naming a couple tropes.

Anyway, I'm kind of against cutting it because it's a tabletop RPG, which means that there's not going to be any explicit sex, and the exact rules don't necessarily need to be followed, and no player needs to necessarily play a 13 year old.

 7554 Raidouthe21st, Sun, 15th Jul '12 9:28:41 PM from Absolutely whacking your friends Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
U Jelly?
...Why do I get the feeling that the people that keep going "But you can have sex with 13 year olds" don't really get the idea that you're not required to ever do anything of the sort, and think that because the rules never directly condemn the idea that it somehow endorses said option?

edited 15th Jul '12 9:54:50 PM by Raidouthe21st

"A haiku for the man: Man with sunglasses, has them on all night and day, watch out where you go."
[up][up][up]I posted a link to it in the thread dedicated to it.

edited 15th Jul '12 9:30:09 PM by shadis

 
Finally found a reason...

And it's so Obviously Biased that it's like they straw-manned the game just to get it cut.

You can have sex with a 13 year old. You can do that in every Tabletop RPG that a 13 year old appears in. Arguably, given that the oldest character is 17 rather than hundreds of year old elves...

I apologize, I'm getting huffy and puffy over something that's... ultimately not my business. However, the rule set seems to be pretty solid. I really like it. I'm probably going to look into running a campaign with this system.

 7557 Komodin, Sun, 15th Jul '12 9:45:52 PM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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[up] Relax, mon. This isn't something worth getting all hot and bothered over.
 7558 Kuro Bara Hime, Sun, 15th Jul '12 9:46:41 PM from Somewhere...I think Relationship Status: Mu
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[up]Strange choice of words there.

 7559 Raidouthe21st, Sun, 15th Jul '12 9:50:48 PM from Absolutely whacking your friends Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
U Jelly?
I do believe all the doujins and fanfics he's had to slog through has corrupted his language without him noticing.

edited 15th Jul '12 9:52:32 PM by Raidouthe21st

"A haiku for the man: Man with sunglasses, has them on all night and day, watch out where you go."
It's interesting because their initial reaction is the same "isn't that Porn meets Gundam?"

And so I'm kind of trying to figure out where this reputation came from.

I think I found it, but it's sourced from Something Awful.

[up]On one hand some of them call us "dick holes" on the other they gave use slendy and boatmurdered.
 
They did a review. They cite developers commentary, taken out of context.

The developer didn't like the Sex Taboo in games, which is why sex is included. And apparently the SA review took his words to mean that sex is the whole point of the game.

 7563 Kuro Bara Hime, Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:01:14 AM from Somewhere...I think Relationship Status: Mu
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There's a couple new wrong flaggings. ImageLinks.Outside Context Villain and Romantic Plot Tumor.

 7564 Komodin, Mon, 16th Jul '12 1:16:43 AM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
 7565 Ramidel, Mon, 16th Jul '12 3:03:12 AM Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Always take Something Awful with a grain of salt. Goon in-jokes may not have any truth to them.

 7566 Meeble, Mon, 16th Jul '12 5:25:45 AM from the ruins of Granseal
likes the cheeses.
My thoughts on Bliss Stage. Since we have a thread for it, it probably makes more sense to discuss it there.
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 7567 Meeble, Mon, 16th Jul '12 6:08:14 AM from the ruins of Granseal
likes the cheeses.
So since the non-porn version of Variable Geo is housed at Advanced Variable Geo, it would make the most sense to have the main page unlocked and make it a redirect to the Advanced page, would it not?
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Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

 7569 Morganite, Mon, 16th Jul '12 7:40:38 AM from Dynamis - Firefly Alley
Something strange...
Since there's also the non-porn OAV, I'd think a disambiguation page would be more appropriate.

Especially when you consider that the OAV is the one that actually has an English localization.
"So... the time has come for you to meet your demise..."
 7570 Meeble, Mon, 16th Jul '12 9:28:09 AM from the ruins of Granseal
likes the cheeses.
I think that we don't do a disambiguation page until we have more than one page that would fall under the particular name/series.

So unless someone wants to go ahead and add a page for the OAV, we would do a redirect for now since there's only one Variable Geo work page, and then turn that redirect into a disambiguation if other work pages from the series gets added.

edited 16th Jul '12 9:28:28 AM by Meeble

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 7571 Lee M, Mon, 16th Jul '12 10:19:17 AM from Somewhere in England
Lee M
Looking for some advice here. I see that my entry for Dreamwalk Journal (formerly listed under NSFW Web Comics) was deleted, but I'm not sure if that was because of the comic's content or just because the original website went offline - there doesn't seem to be anyplace I can ascertain the reason. I'd like to reboot the article apropos of the still-current Spin-Off strip Nightshade, the Merry Widow, but before posting it I'd like to know if it's likely to be deleted as well.

Anime.Variable Geo now has a page. I think Main.Variable Geo should redirect to it, partly because none of the games are available in English and the anime is.

Seeking for Light
[up][up] Dreamwalk Journal was cut for being porn (see here). Whether the spin-off could get a page would depend on the content of the spin-off.

 7574 Adannor, Mon, 16th Jul '12 10:33:06 AM from effin' belarus
Googled the comic, looks like that's the author and the link to comic itself can be found on the page (not linking directly due to NSFW. Though it also requires registration there)

 7575 Meeble, Mon, 16th Jul '12 10:36:26 AM from the ruins of Granseal
likes the cheeses.
[up][up] Despite not being available in English, VideoGame.Advanced Variable Geo is still tropable and has a page here, so a disambiguation would make more sense now that there are two Variable Geo work pages.

Anyone want to try their hand at making a sandbox page for the disambiguation that we can have the mods swap in? I think leaving the main page locked would be a good idea, since we don't want anyone going in and adding the H-games out there down the road.

edited 16th Jul '12 10:37:20 AM by Meeble

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