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The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations):

The sub-forum is used by the panel that adjudicates possible content violations. Threads can only be opened here by people on the panel. This thread is for general discussion of flagged works; if new threads are needed, the P5 will open them.

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edited 12th Feb '13 2:10:16 PM by Fighteer

 6076 Meeble, Tue, 26th Jun '12 7:27:52 AM from the ruins of Granseal
likes the cheeses.
No that's fine, it made it a lot easier to identify the non-porn stuff to make the correct decision.
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Definitely looks a lot better with the zero-context redlinks gone. Good work.

Perhaps with Netorare Genre a rename would be appropriate? I don't think it would be that difficult since it's not really a Japanese only trope. Not that that's a matter for the P5, but just something to consider.

 6079 shimaspawn, Tue, 26th Jun '12 7:33:04 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
I honestly think that making the current name a redirect and renaming it Cuckholding or something to that effect. We're no longer really talking about the porn genre so much as the phenomenon showing up in media. We can make a note of what it's called in Japan, but it shouldn't be the main page title. This is a TRS issue though.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 6080 lu 127, Tue, 26th Jun '12 7:33:25 AM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
We recently closed the TRS on it. It got stalled too much.
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 6081 tdgoodrich 1, Tue, 26th Jun '12 12:12:58 PM from Atlanta Relationship Status: Californicating
Any Poor Souls Who Trespass Against Us...
Since nothing much is happening, seems like a good time for a case study to get things moving again.

Re: Oruchuban Ebichu

  • No demographic information listed for manga, ran in Manga Action Pizazz
  • Anime and manga both unlicensed in the US

edited 26th Jun '12 12:30:02 PM by tdgoodrich1

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"I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
 6082 Kuro Bara Hime, Tue, 26th Jun '12 12:19:19 PM from Somewhere...I think Relationship Status: Mu
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Action Pizazz is a Seinen magazine. Orochuban Ebichu is too then.

 6083 Raidouthe21st, Tue, 26th Jun '12 12:21:03 PM from Absolutely whacking your friends Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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I've seen that show likened to South Park, somewhere. It's definitely for adults despite the cutesy look of it.

And we do still have a page on it, for those who want to check out the tropes and calculate them into their assessment.
"A haiku for the man: Man with sunglasses, has them on all night and day, watch out where you go."
 6084 tdgoodrich 1, Tue, 26th Jun '12 12:29:34 PM from Atlanta Relationship Status: Californicating
Any Poor Souls Who Trespass Against Us...
[up][up]Thanks as always, Kuro.

Re: Oruchuban Ebichu ep. 1

3 sex scenes totaling about 10 seconds, tops. Anatomy is pretty non-detailed, and the sex is intended to be comedic rather than titillating. Also, the subtitled eps. are available starting here on YouTube. Make of that what you will.

edited 26th Jun '12 12:29:53 PM by tdgoodrich1

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop

"I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
[up]Note: It is behind YouTube's age gate.
 
 6086 shimaspawn, Tue, 26th Jun '12 12:35:13 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
[up] Yes, it's just behind the age wall where Google removes actual porn from YouTube.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 6087 Raidouthe21st, Tue, 26th Jun '12 12:35:49 PM from Absolutely whacking your friends Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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[up][up]Here, have two episodes at once.

[up]Not really a good indicator, considering that the AVGN's Metal Gear review is also blocked by an age curtain, and that sure as heck wasn't any worse content-wise then his other reviews.

edited 26th Jun '12 12:38:20 PM by Raidouthe21st

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 6088 tdgoodrich 1, Tue, 26th Jun '12 12:40:17 PM from Atlanta Relationship Status: Californicating
Any Poor Souls Who Trespass Against Us...
Re: Oruchuban Ebichu ep. 2

3 sex scenes totalling 25 sec. out of ~8.5 min. Artwork is drawn like an elementary schooler's drawings. Not intended to be sexy.

Ep. 6:

Less sex. Worst it got was a picture of the boyfriend's nuts. One more and I'll call things.

Ep. 17: A few pubic hair jokes, and brief offscreen sex.

Verdict: Keep, clean if necessary

Pro:

  • Sex makes up a very small portion of the work
  • Art style is very obviously not supposed to be titillating

Con:

  • Onscreen sex is present

edited 26th Jun '12 1:01:01 PM by tdgoodrich1

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop

"I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
[up]I think its more abut the poor hamster getting abused then the sex.

edited 26th Jun '12 1:07:01 PM by shadis

 
 6090 Totemic Hero, Tue, 26th Jun '12 3:09:58 PM from the next level Relationship Status: Abstaining
Mild panic
Posting here to give a heads up that the Rape Tropes index and all the tropes within are now open for public viewing. I'm sure a mod or Eddie will be along soon to give more info on the decision.
"These days they have a stat for how many times a guy goes for a cup of coffee." -Mark McGwire
I loved Ebichu. Sure, it was dirty humor, but it was funny humor.

 6092 Kuro Bara Hime, Tue, 26th Jun '12 6:16:10 PM from Somewhere...I think Relationship Status: Mu
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Nocturna lIllusion's pages have been cut, so it can marked as done.

And Fifty Shades of Grey still needs to be restored.

 6093 Meeble, Tue, 26th Jun '12 8:09:51 PM from the ruins of Granseal
likes the cheeses.
After watching about half a season of Mitsudomoe, I agree wit the assessment of Ultimately Subjective (what an appropriate handle for this type of work, incidentally.) While some of the humor of this series is sexual in nature, it is clearly meant to be just humor, and never appears to be designed to titillate viewers.

The comparison to South Park is fairly apt, here. It's a Toilet Humor filled gag series, but it's not porn or pedo-bait. I'll be giving this one a keep vote.

edited 26th Jun '12 8:10:13 PM by Meeble

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 6094 Kuro Bara Hime, Tue, 26th Jun '12 8:15:54 PM from Somewhere...I think Relationship Status: Mu
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Someone flagged Sex Slave.

Sex Slave sounds fine to me- you can have this trope in a work without it being porn. Susie Q was about to be forced into sex slavery by Villain Q. Ball, but then Hero T. Protagonist saved her.

 6096 Raidouthe21st, Tue, 26th Jun '12 8:19:43 PM from Absolutely whacking your friends Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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Is every single trope even vaguely related to sexual content going to end up being flagged?
"A haiku for the man: Man with sunglasses, has them on all night and day, watch out where you go."
Yes, because stupid.

[up]That and the occasional troll or more likely Damn You muscle memory.
 
 6099 Komodin, Tue, 26th Jun '12 8:33:24 PM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Is every single trope even vaguely related to sexual content going to end up being flagged?

Unfortunately... yeah, most likely.
Can't we make so tropes can't be flaged? Even if needed, this sort of discussion is more fit to the TRS, I would think.

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