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Deadlock Clock: Jun 23rd 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
Lightflame Stick of the Fallen from where you can't find me Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Drowning in your pond, hoping you'll notice me
Stick of the Fallen
#1: Apr 15th 2012 at 8:21:54 AM

The trope shares the same name as a movie, which has a page (that page happens to have way too much gushing, but this thread isn't about that). Sure it's an Overdosed Trope, but I'm pretty sure having a trope with the same name as a work is instant rename criteria. And we already have a redirect that is much clearer: Enemy of My Enemy or The Enemy of My Enemy. So we should rename it to one of those.

"Oh great! Let's pile up all the useless cats and hope a tree falls on them!"
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2: Apr 15th 2012 at 8:35:24 AM

[up]Question, is the work named after the trope, or the trope after the work?

AFAIK, that makes a big difference.

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Stick of the Fallen
#3: Apr 15th 2012 at 8:41:39 AM

[up]The trope was named after the work, which was apparently named after an expression nobody uses because "The enemy of my enemy" is much clearer.

"Oh great! Let's pile up all the useless cats and hope a tree falls on them!"
troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#4: Apr 15th 2012 at 9:14:15 AM

Eh, the trope name is pretty firmly entrenched, and hardly anybody really cares about the film (it's fairly obscure and not very popular). And the further along the Wick Namespace Migration project gets, the less of a problem this sort of thing becomes. With so many inbounds and like 2500 wicks to move, I'm really not convinced it's worth the trouble to rename this.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#5: May 7th 2012 at 7:43:10 AM

[up] Seconded on all points. Continuing the namespace migration is all that's needed here

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
#6: May 10th 2012 at 12:56:14 PM

Crowner hooked.

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DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
#7: May 13th 2012 at 1:20:14 AM

I will add that the current name has about three items under I Thought It Meant:

And that's in addition to the one-letter-off Enemy Mime.

More clear option is clear and I don't see much of a sacrifice lost in using Enemy of My Enemy

Of course, if this ever passes, then Enemy Mine should be turned into a disambiguation page because of those IThoughtItMeants

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#8: May 16th 2012 at 12:43:10 PM

Calling crowner. Lack of consensus to rename.

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AceOfSevens Since: Feb, 2010
#9: May 16th 2012 at 2:54:38 PM

Enemy of My Enemy isn't the same. Enemy Mine can include being forced to work together against natural obstacles, not just common enemies. Also, it's a pre-existing ter.

spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#10: May 16th 2012 at 3:27:44 PM

Page should say something about:

  • Enemies must work together for both of them to survive, or they both die, even if they don't fight at all
  • Common enemy is too strong for only one of them to deal with
  • Options, other than Enemy Mine, are few, if any, and worse than to team up.

ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#11: Jun 20th 2012 at 6:04:33 AM

Clocking due to lack of activity.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#12: Jun 23rd 2012 at 7:36:32 AM

Expired clock. Locking.

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