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Nod was already kicked black and blue by GDI by that point. If GDI couldn't do it, what makes you think Nod could?

I'm talking about the outcome of the GDI-Nod conflicts — and in case of TW3, before GDI gets around to shooting an Ion Cannon at Temple Prime (and thus unwittingly providing the needed trigger for blowing up the liquid Tiberium bomb that Kane had wanted to blow up). If GDI was quickly defeated by Nod in TW3 and never got around to nuking Temple Prime, then Kane would GDI as truly unfit for his purposes and go to Plan B (i.e. build up Nod's military power in preparation for Scrin invasion) while taking over what he can of GDI's toys and/or the blueprints to them (it's a 50/50 chance that GDI was paranoid enough to rig their Kill Sat network to self-destruct in the event of total loss of communication with GDI high command for too long). After all, the Scrin only arrived as early as they did because of the liquid Tiberium bomb's explosion making them think that Earth is ready for harvesting.

edited 1st Jun '16 8:25:32 AM by MarqFJA

Still doesn't explain why his ultimate plan in Tib Sun would've involved almost everyone in Earth's biosphere, save for Kane's chosen and the Forgotten, dying out once the atmosphere was made completely toxic by the Genesis missile.

Force the remaining humanity to adapt and evolve. Now with a stronger breed of humans under his control he can consolidate his power on his terms as he prepares for the Scrin.

More like being able to fight the Scrin on their own turf.

Yeah, but at the cost of 90% or more of the entire planet dying. He's gonna be hurting for troops and infrastructure for a loooong time afterwards.

CLONES!

But at least those troops won't keel over from walking across the tib fields encircling the Scrin bases.

We have no idea what the World Altering Missile would've actually done. GDI assumed that it was just going to accelerate worldwide Tiberium infestation and contamination to the detriment of humanity and at the cost of millions if not billions of people dying en masse. Kane doesn't give any specifics in either campaign, on the other hand, though his spiel to McNeil at the end of the GDI campaign has him talk about "real-time genetic mutation" being among the things the Tacitus had revealed to him, which is really advanced technology.

For all we know, the final death toll would've been much less than GDI thinks it would be, and indeed uplift much of humanity into transhumans almost instantly (though unwillingly).

edited 2nd Jun '16 8:15:00 AM by MarqFJA

*peers at thread*

... What is it?

On a different note, I've been hammering out a rank system for my take on the GDI Armed Forces. Anyone interested?

Saying hi and wondering if there's any Red Alert-related activity.

Of course there is.

Thinking about it, would it be possible that everything Lighter and Softer about the RA games after the first one be a match to basically everything that happened in the real-life Cold War following Stalin's real-life death in 1953?

Not really. The post-Stalin Soviet Union had its own share of nastiness.

edited 6th Jun '16 10:12:57 AM by MarqFJA

Say, how would you guys classify GDI, Nod, and the Scrin in Tiberium Wars according to the categories of A Commander Is You? I'm not sure if the C&C entry on that trope's page got the distinctions right. Also, if the Forgotten were made into a full-fledged faction, which faction type(s) would you suggest giving to them?

The way I see it:

• GDI: Elitist Brute, with a Unit Speciality in heavy vehicles.
• Nod: A Spammer in the early game, but gains Elitist units once it techs up, with a Guerrilla doctrinal approach, and a Unit Speciality in infantry. Nod also has the Gimmick of widespread use of Stealth technology.
• Scrin: Balanced Technical, as many of their early-game units are decidedly inferior in quality to both GDI's and Nod's in quality and their main advantage is their spammability, while late-game units tend to be Glass Cannon-types that are more expensive than their GDI and Nod counterparts (case in point: Annihilator Tripod vs. Mammoth Tank or Avatar Warmech)... unless we're talking about their Unit Specialty in aircraft, that is. Finally, the Scrin has a Gimmick in their infinite capacity for Tiberium storage.

What do you think?

edited 8th Jun '16 6:10:28 PM by MarqFJA

You guys gotta see this, especially if you're a Red Alert 2 fan:

Someone has made a simple mock-up of RA 2 in the Unreal 4 engine that uses the HTC Vive VR headset as a control scheme, and holy crap does it look cool!

edited 10th Nov '16 10:12:59 PM by SgtRicko

Huh. A game engine originally designed for FPS being reused for RTS, and working well at that. Interesting.

I miss being able to play coop in Red Alert 3's campaign.

You know... a few days ago, I considered reconstructing RA 2's campaign maps from the ground up, partly to compensate for modern computers' faster clock speeds causing some of the scripted speech lines to interrupt each other due to the script trying to start the next line before the first one finishes.

edited 11th Nov '16 5:51:59 AM by amitakartok

Well, FPS games tend to have overengineered game engine, thanks to those COD's maniac over there (Huh. We are grateful for Coddies. That's close to A Rare Sentence.) (No offense to Coddies out there. Infinity Warfare was quite awesome). Trading some close graphic fidelity with smarter AI and polygon variation shouldn't be too hard.

It's just... "tedious''. For most people, that is.

Not to mention that Unreal can be quite universal.

If that's true, then a certain RTS made in Frostbite 2 wouldn't have janked the way it did...

It didn't, the testers gave positive feedback, and it was killed due to coprate politics.

^ Aka EA has been a fucking moron.

edited 11th Nov '16 9:47:19 PM by MajorTom