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fishsicles An Ex-Troper from Down The Curtain Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: Mar 25th 2012 at 5:38:05 PM

Other than the caption informs us that the bear in question is the Trope Namer, how does it illustrate the trope?

It does not even look particularly grumpy, let alone "the cynic in an idealistic world".

edited 25th Mar '12 5:38:23 PM by fishsicles

Not nearly a good enough singer for the Choir Invisible, and the Basement Room With A Synth Invisible is much less prestigious.
KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#2: Mar 25th 2012 at 5:47:39 PM

Too literal. Def need a new image.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#3: Mar 25th 2012 at 5:57:37 PM

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1329084058049420200

I thought, "I know! A picture of Eeyore." Unfortunately the best one I found is being used by The Eeyore. That is an awfully fine distinction.

edited 25th Mar '12 6:02:13 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#4: Mar 25th 2012 at 6:29:34 PM

I think Grumpy looks cynical enough. The raincloud adds to it. Overall the design looks very happy, though.

Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

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FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
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#8: Mar 27th 2012 at 7:07:29 AM

Keep Until Better Image Suggested

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#9: Mar 27th 2012 at 7:08:54 AM

Keep Until Better Image Suggested, too.

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ChaoticBrain Since: Aug, 2009
#10: Mar 29th 2012 at 5:29:02 PM

Is this any good?

some caption text

edited 29th Mar '12 5:29:46 PM by ChaoticBrain

animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Mar 29th 2012 at 6:04:03 PM

No, I have no idea what's going on there

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#12: Mar 29th 2012 at 8:07:51 PM

That looks like something other than this trope.

FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#13: Mar 29th 2012 at 8:26:41 PM

The world around her certainly is bright and whatnot, but I'm not really seeing a clear lack of idealism in her focusing on a book while not wanting the others to bother her, or something. I could be overanalyzing or misinterpreting the trope, though.

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#14: Mar 29th 2012 at 8:50:42 PM

I see her either focusing on the book, or being affected by what's written there. I don't see this trope.

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Scardoll Burn Since: Nov, 2010
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#15: Mar 29th 2012 at 9:36:39 PM

I would like the pony pic more if the yellow one didn't have a sad face; this trope is about a single character being pessimistic in an optimistic setting, but the purple one clearly isn't the only one who is not happy.

edited 29th Mar '12 9:37:03 PM by Scardoll

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KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#16: Mar 30th 2012 at 3:50:56 AM

Pony pic is worse than what's currently up. There's nothing there to suggest the trope.

abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#17: Mar 30th 2012 at 10:09:27 AM

Man, it's harder to find a picture of this then you'd think.

How about this? ("I hate ___" is his catchphrase)

edited 30th Mar '12 10:11:36 AM by abk0100

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#18: Mar 30th 2012 at 10:59:13 AM

Current picture is fine. The pony picture just shows her focused on reading.

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fishsicles An Ex-Troper from Down The Curtain Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#19: Mar 30th 2012 at 1:44:32 PM

My issue here with the current and all suggested so far: the image for this needs to show two things: a cynical character in an idealistic 'verse, and that the verse itself is idealistic.

None of the images so far really establish the latter. Before you say "well obviously the pic is saccharine, it is a bloody teddy bear/pony/Smurf", I direct you to Subverted Kids' Show, Crapsaccharine World, and Art-Style Dissonance.

At least current and Smurfs establish grumpiness, though. I vote strongly against the pony, since it just looks like concentration (even if the actual context fits the trope).

edited 30th Mar '12 1:45:34 PM by fishsicles

Not nearly a good enough singer for the Choir Invisible, and the Basement Room With A Synth Invisible is much less prestigious.
FinalStarman from Clinton, Massachusetts Since: Nov, 2011
#20: Mar 30th 2012 at 3:10:38 PM

I see an idealistic verse in Care Bears. I see the image and don't think of any of the tropes in the post above. From what I can tell from advertisements and pop culture, Care Bears is pretty sweet stuff.

I'm not crazy, I just don't give a darn!
Scardoll Burn Since: Nov, 2010
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#21: Mar 30th 2012 at 3:48:02 PM

None of the images so far really establish the latter. Before you say "well obviously the pic is saccharine, it is a bloody teddy bear/pony/Smurf", I direct you to Subverted Kids Show, Crapsaccharine World, and Art Style Dissonance.
What those tropes all have in common is that they are notable for being the opposite of what is expected of the art style. They are not anywhere near the norm and are not the first things someone thinks of when they see a saccharine art style and setting.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#22: Mar 30th 2012 at 3:53:15 PM

Yeah that is like saying a guy in black spiked armor adorned with skulls doesn't look like a villain because sometimes Dark Is Not Evil.

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#23: Mar 30th 2012 at 8:59:46 PM

I was about to say something, but #21 and #22 said it better.

The words above are to be read as if they are narrated by Morgan Freeman.
johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#24: May 14th 2012 at 8:02:44 AM

@abk The "I hate bears" image would be better if it was flipped so he was walking away from the page...

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#25: May 14th 2012 at 9:03:31 AM

I like the Grumpy Smurf.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!

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