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Duplicate Trope: Indecipherable Lyrics get usage counts

 1 Spark 9, Wed, 7th Mar '12 4:33:42 PM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
This trope overlaps a lot with Something Something Leonard Bernstein, with numerous examples appearing on both trope pages.

Apparently the difference is that Indecipherable Lyrics means that most lyrics are understandable and some are not, whereas Something Something Leonard Bernstein means that some lyrics are understandable and most are not. Needless to say, this distinction is subjective, arbitrary, and not at all apparent from the respective trope titles.

Interestingly, Indecipherable Lyrics has a lot of wicks but almost no inbounds, whereas Something Something Leonard Bernstein has numerous inbounds but not a lot of wicks.

We're going to need some cleanup here, and I think we can make a good case for merging the two tropes.

edited 7th Mar '12 4:58:18 PM by Spark9

Special trousers. Very heroic.
As far as I can make out (heh), Indecipherable Lyrics is Exactly What It Says On The Tin, while Something Something is about songs famous for having one well-known phrase in a sea of gibberish. Don't know if it's enough of a difference, though.
 
 3 shimaspawn, Wed, 7th Mar '12 5:22:40 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
People also seem to like to trying throwing examples on Mondegreen. I've deleted the misuse, but I promise it happens.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

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 4 Meta Four, Wed, 7th Mar '12 5:31:38 PM from the house of bread and battle
AXTUCE MUN AXTE INCAL
Something Something Leonard Bernstein is about songs where you can only remember one or two lines.

Indecipherable Lyrics is about songs where you can maybe understand one or two lines if you're lucky.
 5 Spark 9, Wed, 7th Mar '12 5:47:32 PM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
[up] And how is that different? You understand the lyrics you remember; you remember the lyrics you understand.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
 6 Madrugada, Wed, 7th Mar '12 5:53:53 PM Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Being able to understand what's being sung and knowing the words to a song are often related, but they aren't the same.
'He strutted across the bedroom, his hard manhood pointing the way' sounds like he owns a badly named seeing-eye dog. 'Sit, Hard Manhood!
A cleanup should leave every example in Something Something Leonard Bernstein some variation of form "The only words anyone knows in X are YZ." Which is different from Indecipherable Lyrics, whose examples should take the form of "You can't understand any of the lyrics in X."

"Anyone" is subjective. Thus the difference is subjective.
Still new. Still learning. Asking questions and making mistakes.
Subjective if you like, but they're still different definitions. One is "can't understand the lyrics." The other is "one particular phrase sounds clear."

Looking over the examples in Indecipherable Lyrics, I see several that do have some part recognisable, and would fit in Something Something Leonard Bernstein. If there is a distinction, there shouldn't be any overlap. Or at least, not in those cases.
The Internet misuses, abuses, and overuses everything.
Indecipherable Lyrics includes songs where portions are indecipherable.
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel.
Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
 12 Dragon Quest Z, Tue, 13th Mar '12 1:35:39 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
That name seems like a Super Trope to the other existing tropes.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
I'll admit that I YKTTW'ed this when I didn't know that Something Something Leonard Bernstein existed, and someone launched it before anyone pointed this out.

Merge sounds good to me.

Indecipherable Lyrics sounds like the name of a supertrope to me.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
 15 ccoa, Sat, 14th Apr '12 7:12:42 AM from the Sleeping Giant
With Mod Hat On
Clocking due to lack of activity.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 16 ccoa, Sat, 14th Apr '12 7:33:07 AM from the Sleeping Giant
With Mod Hat On
Crowner Be-Dazzled™ onto thread.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
I voted up, but we shouldn't move all current examples on Indecipherable Lyrics to SSLB, right? Only those that are examples of SSLB.

 18 Spark 9, Sat, 14th Apr '12 9:04:08 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
[up] Yes. I edited the crowner to read "most" examples rather than all.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
Indecipherable Lyrics: Does it happen to the average listener, or someone hard at hearing, or eveyyone who doesn't speak the language of the song.
 
 20 ccoa, Tue, 15th May '12 7:52:52 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Bumping for votes.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
This trope is too much YMMV for examples. Every song ever written can be this trope to soem people. SSLB is this, to 99% of everybody, not just a few. Cut examples?
 
 22 Septimus Heap, Tue, 15th May '12 2:52:24 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
[up]This seems to run the risk of running into the same problems as Mondegreen did - but are the examples also bad?

 23 Willbyr, Tue, 29th May '12 10:05:01 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
Calling this in favor of the leading proposal.
 24 ccoa, Fri, 13th Jul '12 8:03:26 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Any progress here?
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 25 Septimus Heap, Thu, 30th Aug '12 11:27:46 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Can someone write up a def for the supertrope?

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