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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#1: Feb 24th 2012 at 7:13:27 AM

In the TRS for Accidental Innuendo, it was determined that the problems that trope was having are shared by the other innuendo tropes. A Crowner was held, and the conclusion was to fix all of the innuendo tropes in one go.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
RoninCatholic Petting Zoo Person Since: Dec, 2010
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#2: Feb 24th 2012 at 10:27:22 AM

Accidental Innuendo has no purpose. It's just "I'm dirty-minded and find dirty stuff in innocent dialogue", for instance, every use of the word come ever, for some reason. (This was completely opaque to me until I looked it up. Now it's just irritating.)

The others should have their examples cut; Visual Innuendo faces the a similar problem, though not as egregiously, in that a lot of things might sorta resemble other things if you squint and are looking for such imagery. (There are also legitimate, intentional uses; I haven't gone through the examples recently, so they might have been cleaned up some.)

edited 24th Feb '12 10:28:19 AM by RoninCatholic

I must be cruel, but to be kind That bad may begin, and worse be left behind
KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
RoninCatholic Petting Zoo Person Since: Dec, 2010
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#4: Feb 24th 2012 at 10:35:42 AM

[up]So? Why have it at all? I'm probably mostly saying this because I find innuendo, multiple entendre, and subtlety in general difficult to grasp, but I have a hard time seeing why we need a page of "Things Some Tropers With Dirty Minds Can Take For Dirty."

I must be cruel, but to be kind That bad may begin, and worse be left behind
KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#5: Feb 24th 2012 at 10:37:48 AM

"Why have it at all" is not a strong argument. The page serves a purpose and is a popular one.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#6: Feb 24th 2012 at 10:44:43 AM

...I think this should be in Special Efforts, similar to the Badass cleanup project.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#7: Feb 24th 2012 at 12:40:25 PM

[up][up]I strongly disagree about the validity of this as an argument - one could have said the same thing for Troper Tales. But regardless, it belongs on the discussion for Accidental Innuendo proper. This thread is for the innuendo tropes as a whole.

KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#8: Feb 24th 2012 at 2:07:23 PM

Troper Tales was a separate thing from the main wiki, and is not comparable. Besides, the problems that had were completely different and far worse.

Again, Accidental Innuendo is a YMMV page, and is given more leeway when it comes to adding examples.

edited 24th Feb '12 2:12:07 PM by KaiserMazoku

Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#9: Feb 24th 2012 at 2:22:26 PM

Can we close one thread, or decide which each covers? Right now, we seem to be discussing Accidental Innuendo in both - and only Accidental Innuendo in both.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#10: Feb 24th 2012 at 4:23:09 PM

[up][up]The problems are directly comparable, though not quite as bad. And this isn't really part of the main site either - our primary focus is tropes in media, not Audience Reactions. As I said on the other thread, I don't think "make it in-universe" should be our default solution to all bad YMMV tropes, but the fact of the matter is that in-universe tropes will always be more on-mission for TV Tropes then Audience Reactions.

Again, though, this belongs on the other thread - the reason this was created was because the innuendo tropes as a whole have problems, mostly of the same sort. Specific discussion of Accidental Innuendo belongs on that thread.

pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#11: Feb 24th 2012 at 9:39:56 PM

Why have it at all?

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