Media namespaces -- a battery of questions:

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This is the sticky thread for questions related to the namespacing of works. As in, "which is the right namespace for this work?"

Ideally, questions already answered are covered on the Namespace Map. If you know a namespacing issue has already been resolved, but it is not yet documented on the Map, please update the Map.

If you want to suggest a new namespace, don't post here, but in Suggesting New Namespaces instead.
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edited 22nd Jul '13 6:47:29 AM by Willbyr

51 SeptimusHeap10th Mar 2012 01:42:12 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Good point. In this case, actors&authors&directors would fall under /Creator/ (since the're involved in the creative process) and other people would fall under /UsefulNotes/.

And what about Public Domain Characters? Do they go under /UsefulNotes/ or /Main/ since they're used like tropes?
Creator/ could also include developers and producers, like Mutant Enemy and Jagex Games Studio.

Historical Domain Characters are usually a mix between Useful Notes and tropes. I am inclined to rule that the Useful Notes aspect should take precedence, since as a trope there's a good possibility they'd be People Sit on Chairs. And then if they end up gathering lots of examples, we should start looking for subtropes to split.

edited 10th Mar '12 2:03:34 AM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."

edited 23rd Jul '17 3:01:11 PM by Jicragg

[up]This brings up an obvious problem: many creators are also actors. There's even a trope about how this line tends to get blurred.

I'm seeing more and more composers moved to the Music/ namespace. This seems wrong to me, as most of them aren't performers.

edited 10th Mar '12 7:59:39 AM by Prfnoff

55 SeptimusHeap10th Mar 2012 08:03:31 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Actors are involved in creating a work, sorta. Hence, I want to have 'em into /Creators/.

edited 23rd Jul '17 3:01:02 PM by Jicragg

57 Ghilz10th Mar 2012 09:21:23 AM from Canada, or the Moon , Relationship Status: Drift compatible
So have we every figured out where Fan Films go? Been wanting to make a page for months and still have yet to hear a decent answer on that one.
58 SeptimusHeap10th Mar 2012 09:39:48 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
I'd say /Film/, since Fangames go into /VideoGames/ too and /FanFic/ seems to be an exception (it would often fall under /WebOriginal/, as they are rarely published as books, but we have /Webcomic/ and Web Original seems to need a split in various categories)

edited 23rd Jul '17 3:00:54 PM by Jicragg

60 Martello10th Mar 2012 10:38:36 AM from Black River, NY
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How about Publisher/ and Studio/?

That would cover Nintendo, MGM, Paramount, Infinity Ward, Image, DC, Marvel, Sledgehammer Games, Virgin Records, and so on.
"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.
61 SeptimusHeap10th Mar 2012 10:43:09 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
I prefer to have them together in /Creator/, since even an actor is involved in the creation of a work.
I'd support a Creator/ namespace.

Do we have anything definitive on where abridged series go? I've seen them both in WebOriginal/ and FanFic/. Or maybe we should wait until Web Original gets that split it needs badly...

Stop Motion should be animation, but the animation is under going splitting into namespaces in another thread. tongue

edited 23rd Jul '17 3:00:44 PM by Jicragg

Thing is, most abridged series are really Gag Dubs than just plain out fan works. If we ever get a fan work name space though, I wouldn't be opposed to putting them there.
Do we have anything that works for audio dramas in the drama cd form? They aren't radio.

edited 23rd Jul '17 3:00:36 PM by Jicragg

67 Fighteer12th Mar 2012 12:01:02 PM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
I wanted to have it split as People/ and Company/, because the line between an actor and an author blurs quite a bit.

Let's Play goes in Web Original unless we create a more specific namespace for it.

edited 12th Mar '12 12:01:22 PM by Fighteer

68 SeptimusHeap12th Mar 2012 12:05:49 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
I didn't think of a /People/ and /Company/ split - might be a good idea really.

I think that Web Original is as for now the holding ground for anything web-related that isn't webcomics. I support splitting it up in more namespaces.
I don't see the need to have two separate namespaces for people and companies. They're both creators. From the perspective of our mission, there's no functional difference. And having the namespace line up with the page type makes it clear that they're not works or tropes.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
70 Fighteer12th Mar 2012 12:17:20 PM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
The issue is that you're leaving off people who are not creators. Plus, a person and a business have fundamentally different tropes.

edited 12th Mar '12 12:17:43 PM by Fighteer

71 SeptimusHeap12th Mar 2012 12:18:41 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Yeah, we would have to classify actors, editors, all the "parastory people" as creators as well. And Historical Domain Characters as tropes (unless they already are)
If they're not creators, they should be Useful Notes.

Historical Domain Characters are tropes if they're tropes and Useful Notes if they're Useful Notes.

Actors and editors are creators. Why wouldn't they be creators? A lot of people contribute to the creation of a work.

edited 12th Mar '12 12:20:34 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
73 SeptimusHeap12th Mar 2012 12:22:15 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Definitively support people and entities like businesses to be /Creators/ when they are all involved in creation of stories. This would also help us defining what we are not about.

edited 23rd Jul '17 2:58:57 PM by Jicragg

75 SeptimusHeap12th Mar 2012 04:13:44 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
A paper is passive in creation. People aren't. If anything, that argument would go about cameras.

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