Media namespaces -- a battery of questions:

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This is the sticky thread for questions related to the namespacing of works. As in, "which is the right namespace for this work?"

Ideally, questions already answered are covered on the Namespace Map. If you know a namespacing issue has already been resolved, but it is not yet documented on the Map, please update the Map.

If you want to suggest a new namespace, don't post here, but in Suggesting New Namespaces instead.
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edited 22nd Jul '13 6:47:29 AM by Willbyr

326 SeptimusHeap10th Sep 2012 12:55:12 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Soft Split the YMMV page.
Done! Thanks.
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Why was The Joker moved to the SelfDemonstrating/ namespace? That's not a medium namespace.
329 SeptimusHeap10th Sep 2012 02:16:23 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Because it's not about the medium, but about the character's habits?
[up]What is that supposed to mean? Why was it and its 1000+ wicks placed there rather than ComicBook/?
Seeking for Light
[up] Probably because someone in the discussion that took place in Ask The Tropers misunderstood the proper course of action for self demonstrating pagesnote  and thought that the primary page was supposed to be the SelfDemonstrating/ page.
Ok, this Self Demonstrating/ business is getting a bit out of hand. Was Doctor Doom supposed to always be like that?
[up] Somewhere along the line, it apparently became the thing for pages about specific characters to be written in the voice of the character. (See also The Joker, Lex Luthor, etc.)

I never saw the point, myself, but then I never really saw the point of the pages in the first place.
I'm creating a works page for Puzzle Clubhouse and just wanted to check... Web Original, right? It's a series of web games/animation tied together by an episodic storyline, and each episode is created with lots of input from the community.
335 SeptimusHeap22nd Sep 2012 01:36:15 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
No, that would go in Web Games, I'd say. Web Original was scrapped.
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337 Xtifr22nd Sep 2012 04:27:25 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Audio-only sketch comedy (or drama for that matter, though I don't have any examples of the latter) released on vinyl and/or CD. Cheech and Chong got their start this way, and Firesign Theatre is still best known for their sketch albums. (They technically started in Radio, parodying old-timey radio on a local LA station, but once they got a record deal, they never looked back.)

Note that I'm not asking about creators here. I was thinking of making a page for the Firesign Theatre's I Think We're All Bozos On This Bus, which is a nearly hour-long comedy/science fiction story that was nominated for a Hugo Award in the early seventies.

eta: I thought we had a Comedy/ namespace, to cover things like stand-up comedy, and maybe even sketch shows, and I was planning to use that until I discovered that it only existed in my imagination.

edited 22nd Sep '12 4:35:24 PM by Xtifr

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Should Chekov's Gun be moved to Just for Fun or is the namespace part of the joke? The answer in TRS was ambiguous.
In uffish thought
I reckon it's part of the joke and shouldn't be changed. The page type is already "fun". I will correct all the accidental wicks tomorrow.
340 Xtifr26th Sep 2012 03:14:43 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Still hoping for namespace suggestions for audio-only works that don't involve either Music/, Radio/, or Web-anything/. It's not a huge category, but big enough that I don't think we can or should ignore it. Maybe Audio/?

edited 26th Sep '12 3:15:10 PM by Xtifr

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341 SeptimusHeap26th Sep 2012 03:21:44 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
^Can you provide an example? It's hard for me to imagine one.
AudioPlay/ was approved a few pages back if that helps. [up][up]
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The folks in the Echo Chamber ARG thread were wondering if there was a good namespace to put a page about an ARG.
344 Xtifr27th Sep 2012 08:39:32 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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[up][up][up] I mentioned a few examples in post 337. I could list a lot more. Basically, audio-only storytelling didn't actually disappear between the death of radio shows in the 1950s and the rise of the web in the 1990s. There were quite a number of people making and releasing non-musical albums on vinyl (and later CD) that told stories, during that era. Cheech and Chong, The Firesign Theatre, Stan Freberg, and many others released works we have no namespace for.

The specific one I wanted to make a page for has a page on The Other Wiki: here.

"This album, like its predecessor Don't Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me the Pliers, is one complete narrative that covers both sides of one LP."

Like I say, something like Audio/ might work, but I want to get some sort of consensus before I run off to forge new namespaces. I originally thought of "Album/", but that seemed too generic. (Not that Audio/ isn't generic; I just haven't thought of anything better.)

[up][up] Ah, yes, it was at least discussed here. Eddie seemed to think Audio Play/ was the right name, but that doesn't seem to have been formally approved anywhere. It's not on any of the lists, and no examples exist.

Someone mentioned a different thread for getting new namespaces approved? Does anyone know what thread he might have been talking about?

edited 27th Sep '12 8:47:31 PM by Xtifr

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345 SeptimusHeap28th Sep 2012 03:21:58 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
^There is such a thread, but I am afraid that you'll need a special one to get attention.
It's super effective.
Do films made entirely in motion capture go in the Western Animation namespace?
Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl
This doesn't seem to have been brought up yet from what I can tell (apologies if it has been), but is Web Comics about media per se (i.e., a work with words and pictures juxtaposed that happens to have debuted on the Web), or format (including various attributes shared by most things people identify as Webcomics, like "installments are one page at a time," they're implicitly serial on a weekly or shorter basis, etc.)?

As digital comics (delivered via Comixology and similar means) have taken off, a related semi-recent development is comics that have the form of traditional comic books (stories broken into "issues" of 24 pages or thereabouts, in a format suitable for print)... but which happen to be released as "digital-first" and perhaps digital-only.

For instance, DC Comics has some "Digital First" comics (Ame-Comi Girls is one example) where they come out on digital several months before they're released in print. And companies like Monkeybrain make traditionally-formatted comic books that may eventually make it into print, and are generally created with that in mind, but they currently exist only in digital.

By a technical definition, I suppose these examples would be Web Comics, but "in spirit" they seem better described as Comic Books.

348 Fighteer20th Oct 2012 10:39:31 AM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
It's really about where people will think to look first. If they are using the format of traditional comic books, but published online, I'd say it's fine to keep them in the Comic Book namespace. Just my 2 cents.
Is anyone familiar with WFSBFO Chatroom? I cannot for the life of me tell what it is, and Google isn't helping.
350 SeptimusHeap21st Oct 2012 10:11:48 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
/DarthWiki/ or /RolePlay/

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