All-Purpose Nasuverse Fanfiction Thread

The Type-Moon Wiki says Mordred could be summoned as Berserker, but... it's still a wiki, so yeah.

Mysterious Heroine X seems pretty much out of her mind at times, and IIRC she even has a Madness Mantra she has to repeat to keep herself on check.

I'd imagine that Mordred might be that kind of Berserker like Beowulf, where she would just become super aggressive but maintain her sanity.

I don't know what you're talking about, Mysterious Heroine X isn't Artoria.

Anyway, Mordred herself thinks she can qualify for the class, but in the Nasuverse, she's never explicitly gone insane or into battle rages like Cu's Warp Spasm. So... she has no feats that actually qualify her for Berserker, no matter how aggressive and fierce in combat she is.

Admittedly, she might wind up a Berserker like Beowulf is - a Berserker In Name Only, since his mad enhancement doesn't do squat, as a result of how people perceive her... but Nasuverse Mordred is not known for being insane - in fact, the story paints him as an actually charismatic individual that could actually lead the country to revolt against King Arthur, even if in reality she is just a young, dumb and resentful little girl trying to get back at her daddy-senpai for not noticing her.

Yeah, if she does qualify for Berserker at all it would be because of her fighting style, since it's very aggressive and whatnot.

So, some random musings of certain subjects. Across media, we've seen that Servants don't always have to be real people the most infamous canon instance being 'Sasaki Kojiro'. However, I've noticed some instances of what we could call 'Conceptual Servants', that is, Servants who are not actually people (and thus not from the Throne of Heroes) but are more or less anthropomorphic concepts.

One is Nursery Rhyme, who seems to be the Concept of Children's Stories. Another Possibility is Berserker Jack the Ripper from Fate/Strange Fake, who is the Concept Of The Speculation/Possibilities Of The Real Identity Of Jack The Ripper, separate from Loli Jack herself, who from her own profile is the amalgamation of the wraiths of all the abandoned dead children of prostitutes of London.

With that, I propose a fic where all the Servants are Conceptual Servants. For example, Saber is, of course, an Arturia-face, but instead of being anyone specific, she's the Concept of Knighthood, and has taken on the appearance of Arturia as a default. Rider would the Concept of Speed, and keeps showing up as fast things you can ride, like a racing bike, a dragster, a horse, etc. As an idea, what do you guys think?

Interested. You left out Rider Pestilence from Strange Fake.

Rider is not the speedy class, tho. The speedy class is Lancer, who are skewed towards Agility.

Yes, but Rider = Speed because of man's obsession with fast vehicles. He's basically 'Man wants to get in a car and floor the accelerator'.

If you summon a Servant who is the Concept of Victory, doesn't that mean you automatically won the war?

What would the 'Concept of Victory' be like? Because of the Heroes of Olympus series, I keep seeing a deranged winged woman who keeps hawking Nike shoes.

edited 15th Jan '17 4:46:13 PM by SCMof2814

Isn't that Scathach?

Scathach is the official sponsor of Nike?

No, I meant the whole "Concept of Victory" thing. I seem to recall something about her being basically unbeatable (if not actually unbeatable) once the right circumstances have been met.

Rider's not really a conceptual Servant though, she's Medusa.

The CLASS not the FSN character.

Ah.

... No, that is not the case with Scathach at all.

Scathach is not unbeatable, in fact, in-story, Cu Alter gives her a pretty sound thrashing in America, IIRC. She is, however, cursed to be unable to die, which is not a factor in her Servant form since while Scathach herself can't die, the servant container can only endure so much punishment.

But she did achieve all that by being just that good, though. It's why people think she's associated with Victory as a concept, I'd guess.

A Rider that manifests as a vehicle is pretty cool, though. People are going to presume that the person on the vehicle is actually Rider, and will be very puzzled as to who the master is. Especially if that person wears a face-concealing helmet.

And it lets them be an pseudo, Transformers-like Assassin. No one suspects the Ferrari parked on the street! They might suspect the driver, but not the Ferrari!

So I read another chapter of "The Demon Lord's Hero" and, aside from being bored out of my mind since it was just a very slow paced fight, the author's note at the end convinced me to quit reading it.

You see, at the start of High School DxD. Raynalle (or Raynare) tells Issei that possessing a Sacred Gear is a curse. The series then goes on to state time and time again that those who possess the Boosted Gear are doomed to never live peacefully and that possessing it only brings suffering to you and those around you. According to the author, this is the greatest lie in anime history.

This is so completely wrong that it's almost insulting. That statement just proves that the author had absolutely no understanding of the story and the characters.

I could write a freaking essay about why possessing any Sacred Gear, let alone the Boosted Gear, is a curse but I don't feel like doing that and I doubt that anyone here wants to read it so I'll prove my point with one sentence:

Issei, and his harem by extension, can never obtain a Happily Ever After because of the Boosted Gear.

While I doubt they were released at the time the author wrote that chapter, the EX novel(s) reveal that, sometime in the series' future, Issei is still fighting hoards of god-slaying abominations due to an on going war against the final Big Bad. Even after achieving his dream of being the Harem King, he still can't actually settle down and enjoy it. This is compounded by the fact he has numerous other responsibilities that he has to attend to which keeps him away from his family even more. Because of this- and the fact that Asia is in a coma/dying or something, several of his kids actively either dislike or hate him. Due to the nature of the Boosted Gear and dragons, powerful enemies will continually seek out and challenge Issei meaning that the guy will never gain know peace and may very well end up dying in battle.

That sure as hell sounds like a curse to me and that's not even touching the countless other characters whose lives are a shit show because of their Sacred Gears.

And then the author goes on to talk about how Karasuba (one of the world's laziest OCs) is a victim and we should all pity her and how they're actually making the Sacred Gear to be a curse rather than a blessing. Karasuba represents everything bad about the fic and I'm supposed to feel sorry for her when all I want is for Shirou to annihilate her.

The author also goes on to imply that Issei's life only got better because of the Boosted Gear and nothing else which just proves that they don't understand the characters at all.

I want to like it because there are so many interesting things in it and I'm really curious to see how a number of non-Karasuba related things play out but I have to keep putting up with this mockery of the source material and the constant Karasuba wanking then I'm done. I have far better things to do with my time.

I think I actually agree on Karasuba being basically the worst thing about the fic and representing everything that goes wrong with it.

There's a lot of good ideas, but I don't think Karasuba is in that list. At all.

Also, I was ignoring a lot of the author's notes because I'm not really interested in those. When I do read them, I'm often surprised to find authors with good ideas who often have incredibly freaking wrong opinions.

I recall this one guy who was convinced that the Wizards of Harry Potter had a more functional, smarter and better organized form of government than the mages of Negima, and while I will agree on them being more organized because they're incredibly fond of overblown and pointless bureaucracy, I would heavily protest them being more functional or smarter on the basis that Wizards being incredibly fucking dumb is not only canonical even back in the first book, but one of the major antagonists of the last few books was the ministry itself, not because it was full of evil people, but because of how incompetent everyone running things is, and it's implied (and IIRC, Rowling made it a lot clearer in Pottermore but I haven't seen the source myself) that the British is one of the 'better' wizarding governments, with others being even worse.

Meanwhile, the main Mages' government is only an obstacle when the main character stands in direct opposition of it, and their shady dealings would never have gotten out if it hadn't been for someone infiltrating the government in the first place. Not to mention they have a world-wide Weirdness Censor in place as well as building the reputation of the biggest magical institution of the world in such a way that people absolutely buy any weirdness as some dumb excuse because that's just how Mahora is.

And of course, there's an insane amount of delusional fanboys who think that Harry Potter would be even remotely dangerous in a Grail War.

Harry might have a decent shot in the Grail War Great Race, I guess, because he has access to a flying car.

I mean, until Gil or Illya just shot him down the sky from the Gil Machine or the Bersercar, but still.

Pretty much everyone other than Saber and Kojiro can shoot him down, they're the only two without range capabilities.

Yeah, but those two are the most likely to shoot at him first.