I know what it means. It just seems... I dunno, rude?... to call the French Arturia clone "French" as a designation/name. It seems very Hey, You!, sort of. Especially since all the other Sabers but Nero (Italian) are British....
Louise's case, I'm willing to chalk up to the late author going "As Long As Itsounds Foreign..."
Hmmm... Ranger Scheme Sabers...
Two astronauts open a space dumpster, accidentally releasing an ancient evil!
Avenger rises from his prison, gazing up at the Earth. "At last! After 10,000 years, I'm free! It's time to conquer Earth!"
Kotomine Risea's head stared down from his giant tube. "Kirei! Avenger has escaped! Recruit a team of teenagers with attitude!"
"Aiy yay yay," Kirei deadpanned. Some day, I swear I'm going to smash your tube open...
They've got the kinda faces you've seen before...
They've got different costumes and official stats galore!
Their master will always let them down
They're the heroines and franchise cashcow mascots!
Go go Saber Rangers!
Go go Saber Rangers!
Go go Saber Rangers, you near-identical Saber Rangers!
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Red Saber! Leader and commander!
Nero put her arms beneath her breasts and squeezed. "Biggest rack, maximum fanservice! Viva Romania!"
Black Saber! Never to be played by an African American again!
"I'm not the Saber the Heaven's Feel Plot deserves... but I'm the Saber it NEEDS..."
Blue Saber! The brainy, secretly gay one!
"I'm the one with seniority here, damnit! I should be the leader!"
Yellow Saber! Never to be played by an Asian again!
"I feel pretty! Oh, so pretty! I'm a pretty little princess lily!"
Pink Saber! Easily replaced and completely defined by her relationships!
"Aku, Zoku, Zan bitches, yes I know I'm not that guy, shut up! A Koha-Ace original! My source will never be translated outside of that Carnival Phantasm segment!"
And introducing... the Evil Saber!
"I have daddy issues that are technically mommy issues!"
Go go Saber Rangers, Super Sexy Saber Rangers!
edited 25th Nov '14 3:11:27 PM by SCMof2814
Who is Saber Pink, or am I just derp?
Search for 'Sakura Saber'.
Ah. Okay.
Hrm.... premise for dumbest 5th War Fic Ever???: Seven Servants in Fuyuki, all with the same Master, Shirou Emiya. And they are all the Servants are girls. Seven Epic Heroines fight to the death not only for the Holy Grail, but for the affections of the Master as well!
- Saber: Nero
- Berserker: Elizabeth Bathory
- Lancer: Arturia-with-Rhongomyniad
- Rider: Medusa or Francis Drake
- Caster: Medea or Tamamo-no-Mae
- Archer: Atalanta
- Assassin: Mordred (if we wank that mortally wounding King Arthur qualifies); if not, Jack the Ripper
- Ruler: Joan of Arc
edited 25th Nov '14 3:43:50 PM by EvaUnit01
Wow, um yeah...
I have a cousin named Artie that's not embarrassed by the name.
edited 25th Nov '14 3:32:57 PM by PhoenixKnight6
"You cannot erase God with an edict."-Romney WordsworthI did say it was potentially the dumbest idea ever....
I know, no insult was intended, I thought that was the intended reaction.
"You cannot erase God with an edict."-Romney WordsworthSure, but I was also hoping to get some discussion out of it too.
@Marq You are stacking the deck too heavily on the "hero" side. The heroes should generally be the underdogs to preserve the narrative tension.
See, my stupid idea gets past that problem, since the conflict isn't about whether Shirou will win the War - if he has all the Servants, then it's pretty obvious he'll win unless he dies when he's killed (which most of the girls wouldn't go for, since killing him means everyone gets terminated). But the Servants are still going to do their damnedest to kill each other regardless, particularly with the likes of Arturia, Mordred, and Elizabeth Bathory among their number.
edited 25th Nov '14 6:03:52 PM by EvaUnit01
Also, it's a comedic premise to begin with. As such, it runs on jokes and hijinks, not plot.
Hm. You know, Eva, you could actually follow the "Assassins must be Hassan" rule that nobody including Nasu in the original game actually gives a shit about, considering that Prototype Assassin is a lady. The thing where she fatally poisons anyone she touches could be an issue, but you know. Hijinks.
Gradually force Shirou to acquire poison immunity. Problem solved.
Alternately, Mordred spent five years in the Middle East and was herself a Hassan. … what? It's not spectacularly more bullshit than King Arthur, his son, Ceasar Nero, and Francis Drake all actually having been women, two of whom (and also Joan of Arc) were identical in appearance to the first!
edited 25th Nov '14 6:19:38 PM by EvaUnit01
Berserker: Elizabeth Bathory
Lancer: Arturia-with-Rhongomyniad
Rider: Medusa or Francis Drake
Caster: Medea or Tamamo-no-Mae
Archer: Atalanta
Assassin: Mordred (if we wank that mortally wounding King Arthur qualifies); if not, Jack the Ripper
Ruler: Joan of Arc
I'd place Semiramis as Assassin, especially if you're going with Tamamo as Caster, since Semiramis makes for a good enough Medea substitute.
I'd also toss in Arcueid as Temptress/Funny Vamp, and, to have a few immune Only Sane Women around, Shiki as Monster and the dupla of Nanoha and Fate as Magical Girl [[x 2]]. (See the official Nanoha-Fate crossover for details). Dunno if a Savior, Avenger or Beast could be added, however.
edited 25th Nov '14 6:17:48 PM by NapoleonDeCheese
I'd probably sooner use Medea than Tamamo for Caster.
If I were to use Magical Girl [[x2]], I'd rather use a duo other than Nanofate. Like, I dunno. Subaru and Teana, or Sailors Mercury and Jupiter, or HF Sakura + Rin (the former with Angra Mainyu's power, and the latter with the Kaleido Dagger as an NP), or Sayaka Miki and Mami Tomoe, or Hermes Costello and Foo Fighters, or Panty And Stocking, or Elpeo Puru and Puru Two (Token Mini-Moe factor, potential Clone Incest threesome with Shirou for the Kaleid Liner fans), etc., etc... Avenger…. I dunno, maybe there's a notable female avatar of Shiva? Savior… eh, there's probably a Vishnu avatar I can use or genderflip… Got nothin' on Beast though.
Arc as Temptress is totally workable, though.
edited 25th Nov '14 6:44:20 PM by EvaUnit01
Prisma Ilya and Kuro/Miyu as Magical Girl x 2, just to see Regular! Ilya's reaction.
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But I don't like Kalied Liner all that much, though admittedly I stopped reading after the first season manga.
I can't answer that properly unless I know what, exactly, prompted the question.
edited 25th Nov '14 6:52:36 PM by EvaUnit01
Oh. Well, Medea strikes me as more likely to try and kill her competitors, where Tamamo is IMO more likely to try and kill Shirou even if it's Not What It Looks Like.
And strangely, even though I like Tamamo a bit more, I think I might have an easier time writing Medea.
Medea is far easier to write than Tamamo. I can't fault Eva Unit there.
With Tamamo, it's too easy to Flanderize her into an exaggerated parody of herself.
edited 25th Nov '14 6:58:48 PM by NapoleonDeCheese
But every Harem Comedy needs a yandere. Besides, she doesn't try to kill Hakuno if they choose Rin or Rani.
But that's another reason to use her! Characters that are hard to write for are the best because pulling it off feels amazing.
edited 25th Nov '14 7:00:06 PM by Zelenal
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IIRC, "Françoise" literally means "French".
So yes, Louise's full name is Louise the French (male) the White of the Valliere (dunno what Valliere means or refers to, though). IIRC, it should be la Blanc, not Le, but my knowledge of French is rather limited, so I might be wrong. The more you know.
edited 25th Nov '14 2:36:57 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
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