The Gun Thread

Somewhere on TV Tropes there's a photo of a flintlock pistol with a laser sight.

Oh, here it is!

pwiegle: I will have to check the link at home. I thought it was a snap on stock.

I also recall there was an experimental .45 ACP model for the Luger. Just like there was a .45 ACP variant of the C 96.

Yes, there was a .45 Luger, which was submitted for the same trials that spawned the 1911. And similarly chambered Chinese copies of the Broomhandle Mauser.

edited 11th Feb '16 6:00:28 PM by Deadbeatloser22

IIRC it was one of the Chinese Warlords who mad the .45 ACP C 96 variant.

The .45 C96 Mausers are rare, but you can find them if you look.

There were two .45 Lugers submitted by DWM for the 1907 US army pistol trials, but neither of these is known to still exist. Stories abound, however. DWM allegedly made a few other prototype .45 Lugers, as samples for commercial sales and/or trial models for other governments.

Some gunsmiths have made replicas of the .45 Luger, usually by cutting and welding two (low-value) 9mm Lugers together to make a stretched frame large enough to accept the .45 cartridge.

edited 11th Feb '16 7:19:35 PM by pwiegle

Design-wise, can you make something like the G-11, sans caseless ammunition?

What do you mean?

To be specific, does the ammunition have to be caseless if you make a gun that has the magazine on top of the barrel, as seen here◊.

No, I can't see any reason why the ammunition has to be caseless.

Yeah, there's the P90 for example.

and I see. Thanks.

Bren Machine guns and a few other examples are also top feed.

Along with anything else based upon the ZB vz.26.

Calico guns have a top-mounted helical-feed magazine. The Lewis gun and Degtyaryov machine guns had top-mounded drums.

I've decided that it's high time I add a Mosin-Nagant to my collection, but considering its lengthy history I don't know what particular model/year to shoot for. (Pun unintended) Anybody with personal experience have any recommendations for what's a pretty solid, affordable, and reliable variant?

Hang on, I just saw an article about Mosin-Nagants in Dillon Precision's catalog, The Blue Press...

The author was extolling the virtues of two 91/30s that he owns. I've never owned a Mosin-Nagant myself, but that's the variant I would get. Russian-made, WWII era, easier to find and in much better shape than the earlier models, and better quality than the Chinese-made copies. I'd stay away from the short-barreled carbines. Personally, I just don't like 'em.

Yeah not going to be buying a Henry Rifle direct from Henry. Wee bit pricey. I saw cheaper ones at Cabellas.

edited 15th Feb '16 5:40:37 PM by TuefelHundenIV

The M44 and M38 Mosins? I've heard the M44 was a decent bush rifle.

But for Mosins all I know it is the Finish made mosins that are the best crafted ones.

The M44 is liable to set fire to the bush with a muzzle flash.

And the 91/30 with the downturned bolt is the one you're after.

Thanks gents, I'll set my sights on a 91/30 then, next time I'm at the store.

True, the Finland-made M39 Mosins tend to be very accurate, as well as nicer in terms of fit-and-finish (no pun intended.) But they're harder to find, and you'll pay two or three times as much for one.

You can pick up a good 91/30 Mosin for less than $200, if you shop around a bit. The bent-bolt 91/30s were hand-selected for accuracy, and usually scoped for sniper use. Some sniper 91/30s had their scopes removed and were re-issued as regular service rifles; you can distinguish them by the drilled and tapped receiver holes where the scope mount used to be attached.

Make sure that the serial numbers on the bolt match the ones on the receiver. If they don't, it indicates that the original bolt was replaced somewhere along the way. They would also serial number other parts, like the magazine, floorplate, and buttplate, but having all matching numbers is far more important to a collector than to a shooter.

edited 15th Feb '16 7:17:37 PM by pwiegle

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Was my summer project lol. This is after its mineral spirits bath lol.

It is a 1939 91/30 all matching serial numbers in really good shape.

@Tuefel, never buy directly from the gun companies. You will always pay more. MSRP is ridiculous on firearms. Your LGS should have most guns 50 bucks cheaper at least than list price.

edited 15th Feb '16 8:35:03 PM by RainbowMatt

Rainbow Matt:No joke. The local Cabellas has pretty good prices and even a neat collectors section I should revisit soon. There are only a couple other locations in town but I don't trust them too much. One the asshats didn't know any of the features of their handguns the other were snooty to just about everyone unless you were making a big purchase.

Got some .43 Spanish black-powder ammo on order for my Remington Rolling Block. Expensive, but still cheaper than buying reloading dies and all the components. And if I do decide to roll my own cartridges later on, I'll have brass for them. Also had a leather bandolier made by a local holster-maker.

I like the M44, but a lot of that is because I'm rather small so the carbine variant is a bit handier for me.

The fireball is insane, though.