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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Rabid Fujoshi
#1: Jan 16th 2012 at 11:34:06 AM

So this trope should be in just about every Urban Fantasy but it only has a little over twenty wicks. I think this is because Domino Revelation really doesn't have anything in the title to indicate it's about Fantasy works and isn't the type of title people are going to search for, neither does it have redirects. I also have some wondering about whether it should be merged with All Myths Are True.

Basically the definition is you find out Vampires are real, then that Werewolves are real, then that witches are real, etc. often eventually leading to All Myths Are True.

edited 16th Jan '12 11:43:49 AM by NoirGrimoir

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billybobfred Cosine! from renamed to wingedcatgirl Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#2: Jan 16th 2012 at 11:40:00 AM

Oh wow.

I thought "domino" was Gratuitous Latin*

, as opposed to, you know, dominoes.

Domino Effect Revelation would be clearer, though I'm not sure if it's clear enough.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#3: Jan 16th 2012 at 12:11:56 PM

I'm don't think the name is unclear here. It seems okay to me. Nothing really unusual about the usage of "Domino" or "Revelation" here. Needs Redirects maybe, but I dunno about renaming.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
Flyboy Decemberist from the United States Since: Dec, 2011
Decemberist
#4: Jan 16th 2012 at 12:15:32 PM

...I think it would work better as Domino Unmasquing (spelling?), to keep all those tropes consistent...

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NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Rabid Fujoshi
#5: Jan 16th 2012 at 1:01:03 PM

[up][up]"Domino Revelation" as a phrase refers to any instance where one revelation leads to another. This trope is SOLEY about this when it comes to revealing the existence of fantasy beings. It's extremely misleading, and not intuitive for searching.

[up]That's a bit better.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#6: Jan 16th 2012 at 3:44:52 PM

I'd venture that it is actually broader than just that based on the wide variety we see in the The Masquerade trope.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Rabid Fujoshi
#7: Jan 16th 2012 at 3:47:44 PM

if it is then there's something wrong with the description.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#8: Jan 16th 2012 at 3:51:19 PM

Show me a trope with an Example as a Thesis and I'll show you something wrong with the description. tongue

edited 16th Jan '12 3:51:33 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Rabid Fujoshi
#9: Jan 17th 2012 at 12:22:47 PM

That's really not a helpful comment. The trope as it stands is only about fantasy, to make it broader, we'd be changing the trope.

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Falco Since: Mar, 2011
#10: Jan 17th 2012 at 6:33:22 PM

I agree the name needs changing. In fact the first time I came across I deleted it as I thought it meant something completely different.

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Kayube Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Sackett Since: Jan, 2001
#12: Jan 17th 2012 at 9:13:02 PM

I assume it means one revelation leads to another revelation.

EDIT: And that's the trope.

edited 17th Jan '12 9:13:44 PM by Sackett

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#13: Jan 17th 2012 at 9:52:33 PM

Redirects Are Free.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
Leaper Since: May, 2009
#15: Jan 18th 2012 at 8:42:36 AM

[up][up][up] ...about fantasy beings specifically and solely.

edited 18th Jan '12 8:43:01 AM by Leaper

NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Rabid Fujoshi
#16: Jan 25th 2012 at 11:29:26 PM

Redirects instead of renaming only makes sense when the actual name isn't inaccurate and or it's particularly clever enough that we want to keep it, but it's not necessarily intuitive. This is neither of those things, IMO.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#17: Jan 26th 2012 at 12:55:07 AM

"Redirects instead of renaming only makes sense when the actual name isn't inaccurate and or..."

Disagree.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
TripleElation Diagonalizing The Matrix from Haifa, Isarel Since: Jan, 2001
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#18: Jan 26th 2012 at 9:35:20 AM

I thought this was about "one revelation leads to another". Is the actual trope even tropeable? It comes across like just a thing that happens.

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Myra Since: Oct, 2011
#20: Jan 26th 2012 at 10:50:07 AM

[up][up] Looked over the trope page, and several examples are just "Main character discover that many kinds of magical creatures are real".

Myra Since: Oct, 2011
#21: Jan 26th 2012 at 10:50:24 AM

How about a page action crowner? So far, the alternatives seem to be
A) Broaden the trope to be about any sort of Reveal leading to another
B) Keep the definition under a different name
C) Keep the whole trope but add some redirects to make it easier to find

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#23: Feb 6th 2012 at 9:47:52 AM

Crowner attached.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#24: Feb 6th 2012 at 10:32:04 AM

If someone were to propose the expanded version in YKTTW, I would probably tell them We Already Have This One, it's Domino Revelation, and Tropes Are Flexible.

Merging seems like a silly idea, since this is definitely a distinct trope. Renaming seems unnecessary, since the current name is fine once we tweak the description to broaden the scope.

Rhymes with "Protracted."

PageAction: DominoRevelation
6th Feb '12 9:32:23 AM

Crown Description:

What would be the best way to fix the page?

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