Rename:: Armed With Canon

Ok, Armed with Canon is about when different authors are changing canon to override each other, but there has been some tendency for people to use it as "The author agrees with my ship/fanon/who would beat who in a fight, so I win and you lose, look at how big my e-peen is, hah hah!"

I'm proposing a rename. I've thought of Dueling Authors, Infighting Of God and Creator Canon Crossfire, but I'd be keen on other suggestions.

edited 16th Jan '12 7:25:41 AM by DracMonster

I want to propose something along the lines of Dueling Canons.

I like it.

Not sure a rename is necessary, though. Are we talking misuse on the wiki itself?

edited 16th Jan '12 8:08:55 AM by BobbyG

It was being used in a shipping war on The Fairly Oddparents page which resulted in some baninations. I've also seen it used as a rude "I'm right, suck it!" edit reason. It gets the most use as flame war ammunition on discussion pages. (Probably forum threads too.)

Part of the title should probably indicate that the works official authors are fighting. Dueling Canons still sounds like it could be used as "My fanfic is Better Than Canon!"

edited 16th Jan '12 8:23:40 AM by DracMonster

Okay, but I'm not sure how a rename would help against that.

I rather like this title. Maybe it needs a link somewhere to battleships armed with cannon, but otherwise I'm not yet convinced there is a problem here.

We actually do have an image like that for Ship-to-Ship Combat, heh.

Dueling Canons could also mean differing continuities. This is infighting among the same continuity.

I think Infighting Of God or Creator Canon Crossfire work better to get both the canon and disagreement of authors aspects in simultaneously.

Edit: And yeah, I always thought this was when two fan groups got into an argument and one pointed out that their ship is canon or whatever, so I'm thoroughly confused...

edited 16th Jan '12 12:36:49 PM by Flyboy

Bump. So are we renaming the page?

The thread has discussion of new names, but no solid reason to rename. I don't think renaming would solve the problem anyway; the nature of the trope is what causes the OP's issue with it, not the name.

I agree with the name change; it was confusing to me too, especially with the picture on the Ship-to-Ship Combat. I support the name Creator Canon Crossfire since it gives a nice visual image of the trope.

Unless someone points to clear evidence of consistent misuse, I can't really agree with a rename.

Yeah, other than a few bad potholes, I'm not seeing a problem. Though that would be a great redirect.

"Dueling" would imply it's two-sided.

Clocking due to lack of activity.

Bumping for votes.

Also, "Armed with Canon" sounds like a Shipping Trope that it uses Canon to justify a 'ship in a shipping war rather than what this page is about.

Bumping again for votes.

Why two votes? Until there's a better name on which we can agree, we risk running into "Okay, let's rename!" "To what?" "Huh... Duhhhhh..."

There are suggestions right at the top of the thread. Dueling Authors, Dueling Creators etc.

I probably would prefer a name like Dueling Canons just because it's a little more clear, but the current name's working well enough, so, meh.

Coming to this, has anybody done a wick check? The current name has nothing whatsoever to do with the trope, but there is no wick check here.

Yes, but still no more accurate variants.

Yeah, but these are still shot at (sorry)

Anyway, "dueling" implies two-sided, as opposed one of them suddenly starting on an off-track into tangled wilderness. Which is the case at least as often as not.

edited 27th May '12 11:47:35 AM by TBeholder

Only thing I could think of here would be Canon Edit War or Creator Edit War or War Between Creators.

Calling crowner. Lack of consensus.

Calling crowner; no consensus to rename.