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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#26: Jan 7th 2012 at 9:36:19 AM

No, in one there is no plot real plot. This is an objective trope.

In the other there is a real fleshed out but there's an audience reaction that it's ignored. This is a subjective trope.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#27: Jan 7th 2012 at 9:40:03 AM

Wasn't Excuse Plot declared YMMV as well?

I thought we were going to, since no one could agree on objective examples.

And "plot isn't important", is a common factor, thus it is not misuse to claim they are related.

edited 7th Jan '12 9:41:08 AM by DragonQuestZ

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#28: Jan 7th 2012 at 9:50:40 AM

This trope is ...The Multiplayer gameplay outshines the story to the point that people buy the game just for that and forget that single player or plot exists.

Like say Battlefield1942.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#29: Jan 7th 2012 at 10:01:13 AM

Does the story even have to come into play then? It's been acknowledged that the singe player is overlooked because it's so lackluster compared to the multiplayer.

The story is just incidental.

In short, this is two tropes.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#30: Jan 7th 2012 at 10:08:11 AM

No, Excuse Plot is an objective trope.

No, this is one plot that can happen multiple ways. The end result is always the same. Splitting it down is just going to make there be a war between the bile spewers and the gushers.

edited 7th Jan '12 10:09:56 AM by shimaspawn

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#32: Jan 7th 2012 at 12:50:46 PM

[up][up]I mean (1) just playing games for multiplayer that also have single player, regardless of whether there is a story, and (2) ignoring the story, regardless of whether there is multiplayer or single player.

That doesn't mean gushing or bashing. It's ignoring different parts of a game.

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#33: Jan 7th 2012 at 1:55:42 PM

Ok let's look at a common example Super Smash Bros... Why do you buy this game? Well of course it's for the multiplayer insanity party game... The only time some people will play singleplayer story mode is for unlocking characters. (Even though it's quite robust.)

Or World Of Warcraft "Who cares about lore! I want epic Raid bosses! Or pwn peeps in arena." (PVP and lore are barely related.)

That's the trope, for sure it's YMMV but is very much a trope unrelated to Excuse Plot though.

edited 7th Jan '12 2:00:53 PM by Raso

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#34: Feb 23rd 2012 at 12:31:25 PM

Even though consensus seems clear, I made a rename crowner here.

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#37: Feb 23rd 2012 at 1:33:01 PM

Multiplayer Or Plot

There's no reason we have to specify probable audience reactions, if we delineate the possible ones.

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#38: Feb 24th 2012 at 12:28:09 PM

This trope, at least when I originally proposed it (and I admit, the name is too negative; there are games that I also enjoy the story of), was for when people generally ignore the plot and don't care how detailed it is. It's not specifically for multiplayer games where people ignore single player mode. It's for games where people tend to ignore all the effort that went into the plot, period.

Only Here For The Gameplay sounds good to me. But not a name that suggests it's specifically about the multiplayer.

edited 24th Feb '12 12:28:20 PM by BonsaiForest

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#39: Mar 8th 2012 at 6:00:22 AM

Calling it.

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#40: Mar 8th 2012 at 6:55:59 AM

I've created the alt-titles crowner here with a few suggestions from the thread.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#41: Mar 8th 2012 at 7:05:21 AM

Crowner affixed to thread.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
BonsaiForest a collection of small trees from the woods (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tongue-tied
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#42: Mar 8th 2012 at 11:11:36 AM

I notice a lot of these names have to do with multiplayer. The thing is, there are single-player games with detailed stories that much of the fanbase doesn't care about, so I think something like "Play The Game Skip The Plot" works best.

If "multiplayer" is in the title of the trope somehow, then that will mean that the inevitable single-player examples won't gel with the title.

edited 8th Mar '12 11:12:04 AM by BonsaiForest

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#43: Apr 2nd 2012 at 9:12:02 AM

Calling crowner in favor of Play the Game, Skip the Story

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#44: Apr 2nd 2012 at 5:33:45 PM

Moved, custom titled, and fixed the wicks. There was misuse, but less than I expected. Anyway, before we lock this up, anyone want to trim the description a little bit? It's not bad right now, but it could be better.

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#45: Apr 21st 2012 at 3:25:40 AM

Doesn't look like there's anything else here. Nice work.

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