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Yuanchosaan antic disposition from Australia Since: Jan, 2010
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#126: Mar 25th 2012 at 11:56:48 PM

Thanks for your comments, everyone. From what you've said, I don't think it's really my thing. I love dystopias, but it doesn't sound like The Hunger Games explores either a complex or novel dystopia. Being easy to read isn't a draw for me either, and I think there are young adult novels which stand well on their own, without the caveat of "good for a YA novel".

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LMage Scion of the Dragon from Miss Robichaux's Academy Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#127: Mar 26th 2012 at 5:31:12 AM

@Yuan

I think you should at least give it a try, their are serious flaws, but it is worth the time spent reading it if nothing else.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#128: Mar 26th 2012 at 5:52:32 AM

Yuan here is a sporking of it.

It's very nitpicky at first, so I'd reccomend reading more than one entry, but if the criticisms they have resonate with you, don't read it. If you're like wtf-who-cares, you should be fine. If you're more of "well, I would have never noticed that without you pointing it out, but you make a valid point..." read for a few more chapters, and then make a decision.

edited 26th Mar '12 6:09:53 AM by MrAHR

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Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#129: Mar 26th 2012 at 6:17:23 AM

It's a good sporking. I found it more entertaining than the books. [lol]

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#130: Mar 26th 2012 at 8:17:00 AM

I enjoyed it greatly, but I know some won't, so I try to have a post that applies to all sorts of people, not just the ones who share my opinions.

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#131: Mar 26th 2012 at 9:06:02 AM

I liked the book, but I also enjoyed the sporking. tongue

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phoenixdaughterAM Since: Jan, 2010
#132: Mar 26th 2012 at 10:33:48 AM

On the subject on the two movies: read it and rejoice. (Don't think my local Walmart is going to stock it but....)

Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#133: Mar 26th 2012 at 12:18:07 PM

I picked up a copy from Best Buy. [lol]

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Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
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#134: Mar 26th 2012 at 1:28:52 PM

Having just seen the movie, I found the sporking entertaining. The movie's not bad, really; reasonably well produced, with mostly decent acting and all that. I'd give it a cautious recommend. Still, the setting is full of glaring implausibility and seems designed for a morality fable rather than for any kind of realism. Is the premise for the Games any better in the books, or not? That's the least excusable part, I felt; second after that was the fact that the president of the whole place seemed to have such a personal interest in how it turned out. I'd have expected a nation that has resorted to bloody circus to have more of them, and for them to matter less.

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#135: Mar 26th 2012 at 1:31:55 PM

@Morven

What exactly was it about the games (technology non withstanding) did you find implausible? All things considered humanity has done a lot worse.

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Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
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#136: Mar 26th 2012 at 1:40:12 PM

Not that the Games themselves feel unlikely. It's the setup where it's The Most Important Thing That Happens In This Place that feels forced.

The idea that a society might be messed up enough to draft young people to fight to the death for televised entertainment isn't really shocking. I'd have just expected it to be one of many such things, and to be on the same level as e.g. most reality TV, for instance. And for it to be invested with such political meaning, that also feels "off".

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#137: Mar 26th 2012 at 1:43:01 PM

@Mor

I assume that similar things ARE shown and happen but the games themselves are like the Olympics or the Super Bowl, annual and huge, but with other less entertaining or less awesome stuff in between.

Katniss obviously wouldn't be clued into this since she hardly ever watches TV, when it's not mandatory.

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Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
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#138: Mar 26th 2012 at 1:56:19 PM

It's certainly possible. I just got the World Invented To Justify Plot vibe from the whole thing.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#139: Mar 26th 2012 at 3:25:32 PM

Morven: I believe it was a show of power. District 13 rebelled and got destroyed, so now they do it to quell rebellions. Or at least, that's what the book claims. Seems a bit odd to me, but hey.

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#140: Mar 26th 2012 at 3:30:10 PM

Question from all those who've read further, do the later books get better? I'm not sure about them considering how mediocre I found the Hunger Games. If Katniss gets more tolerable I might to try them out, cause that girl just came off as bananas to me.

edited 26th Mar '12 3:31:06 PM by SoloWingPixy

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#141: Mar 26th 2012 at 3:40:18 PM

Fans usually hate Catching Fire, but like Mockingjay.

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LMage Scion of the Dragon from Miss Robichaux's Academy Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#142: Mar 26th 2012 at 3:41:42 PM

[up][up]

They get much better as time goes on.

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Psychobabble6 from the spark of Westeros Since: May, 2011
#143: Mar 26th 2012 at 5:29:31 PM

NO. NO THEY DON'T.

I mean, I liked the first one. If you didn't like the first one, please, do not bother with the next two.

And if I claim to be a wise man, well, it surely means that I don't know.
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#144: Mar 26th 2012 at 5:30:32 PM

I didn't much like the first one, and felt that the next two where a major improvement. The first one is really the weakest book.

edited 26th Mar '12 5:50:14 PM by LMage

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Psychobabble6 from the spark of Westeros Since: May, 2011
#145: Mar 26th 2012 at 5:32:13 PM

The next one fell into all the classic traps of a sequel. And the third one...there were things I liked, but there were things I disliked just as much.

Agree to disagree?

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#146: Mar 26th 2012 at 5:50:34 PM

@Psycho

Eh, sure.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#147: Mar 26th 2012 at 5:57:05 PM

Yeah, like I said, the common assertion is that second fails, but third gets better. But if you already dislike Katniss as a character fundamentally, I don't know if you'll enjoy the sequels (going back to the original question)

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SoloWingPixy Since: Sep, 2009
#148: Mar 26th 2012 at 6:01:29 PM

Wasn't expecting that many replies so soon, so thanks so much.

[up] Yeah I really didn't care for Katniss, so perhaps I'll pass on the latter two books for now.

edited 26th Mar '12 6:06:07 PM by SoloWingPixy

UltimatelySubjective Since: Jun, 2011
#149: Mar 26th 2012 at 6:07:18 PM

The quality is consistent over all the novels.

The second may be a little harder to read because for some reason it does almost exactly the same thing as the first.

And the last one only manages to be climactic by invoking (almost) Anyone Can Die and not doing exactly the same thing again.

I can't say how much enjoyment you personally will get out of them though. I didn't find the ending to be something worthwhile, and that's a factor too for many.

edited 26th Mar '12 6:09:50 PM by UltimatelySubjective

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#150: Mar 26th 2012 at 6:54:37 PM

This is the way it went for me.

Hunger Games: Fun read. Haven't read the sporking, but I know there are serious problems. Still, I liked it.

Catching Fire: Weak. Can't remember much about it.

Mockingjay: Prose was hard to follow, ending pissed me off.

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