Fucking sweatshops. >_<
I am now known as Flyboy.Just one more grain of sand on a beach of reasons why I don't like global commerce. Miccrosoft gets a number of products from sweatshops like this, for example. The one I read about was computer mice.
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.Now cue Hasbro making a big public apology and statement to change ... followed by continued payment to the sweatshop for toys.
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - SilaswYeah... business as usual.
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.Right, I don't see the problem, I never have, it's cheap so that means the final product is cheap, and people complain about having to spend less?
FIMFiction Account MLPMST PageUh, we generally don't feel good knowing that people had to suffer to make the things we use.
"Hipsters: the most dangerous gang in the US." - Pacific MackerelThat's not what we're complaining about at all.
My gripe is: They're treated like crap. We're addicted to cheap goods made in China (and elsewhere). We demand fair worker compensatio here, but hypocritically don't care as a whole that our cheap gooods have to be made with a human price elsewhere. Corporations pay lip-service to these things, and the cycle continues.
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.Okay, just to clarify, I do always go for the product that's been made fairly, I hate sweatshops but I can't do nowt about them, so I stopped caring.
FIMFiction Account MLPMST PageAh, but you are doing something - you're not buying the cheaply-made good. You're not giving yoru money to help perpetuate the system.
Yeah, it's like trying to toss starfish out to sea after the tide goes out. There's so many that you might as well not bother, but that one starfish you tossed back sure is grateful...
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.Yeah, what pvt said. Also, if news of this particular case spreads out enough, there could be enough bad PR that something has to be done. Although, it might just mean Hasbro pulling out of this one factory.
edited 22nd Dec '11 1:32:22 PM by ThatHuman
somethingIt's another failing of global capitalism. Such brazen exploitation is saddening to see.
Hmm, I just found out something about the report. it was written by Charles Kernaghan. As in, this guy:
Charles Kernaghan — the head of the Institute for Global Labor and Human Rights — called in to "TMZ Live" today and said because he's been investigating factories in China for years ... he feels comfortable ASSUMING the place is a sweat shop.
@Pvtnum: Its not global commerce to blame. Its that companies can make scads more profit by taking advantage of countries where basic human and workers rights laws dont exist.
This is a pretty disgusting opinion for anyone to have.
To the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.
To be fair. its kind of how it works. People complain constantly about outsourcing jobs to other countries, but they'd be even madder if their tshirts from walmart cost 40 dollars.
Doesn't make it less terrible.
To the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.Actually, it's still cheap to make them here, and there still is a profit at low prices.
"Dr. Strangeloid, or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Cleanlink" - thespacephantomAlso: seconding Culex.
Given that the profit margin on the item is probably far greater then what it should be, paying the sweatshop marker a little more then piss-all wouldn't have a great impact on the cost of the product.
Unless, of course, the business owners forced the cost onto the customers.
So, yeah. I wanna restate post #14. I'm not sure if I was clear enough...
Basically, since the guy behind the report has done crap like insisting that a factory for the Kardashian clothing items uses child slave labor.. despite having never actually seen that factory, I myself am becoming uncertain about the legitimacy of the report.
somethingYes, but this report has pictures and quotes from workers, along with accurate measurements of conditions, what about the Kardashian one?
"Dr. Strangeloid, or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Cleanlink" - thespacephantomThere's been some suspicion that this one is a clever fabrication, I mean. When you consider at the article on the Kardashian thing, the guy might not be somebody to completely trust. I think the suspicion is that this might be an elaborate hoax to condemn actual sweatshops in China. I'm not sure what to believe about this specific case anymore.
edited 22nd Dec '11 4:50:03 PM by ThatHuman
somethingBut still, those are different cases, that Kardashian was an admitted assumption which was clearly different from this one. There's no evidence that this is false and it brings up plenty of evidence to support itself.
"Dr. Strangeloid, or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Cleanlink" - thespacephantomHOW IS THIS NEWS TO ANYBODY?! It's frickin China, their famous for this. I'm impressed it's not a prison camp making them.
I'm baaaaaaack
As reported by the Institute for Global labour and Human Rights.
Jet Fair sweatshop in China produces Hasbro's Transformers
A few things to keep in mind:
edited 22nd Dec '11 5:51:31 PM by ThatHuman
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