Argentine Politics Thread

Yes, which in a sense is a perfect result for Buenos Aires - come to end of term, pass seat to ally.

Yeah but it's one seat, it's not like we're seeing the formation of a block here, it's one sodding seat.

I don't think either Argentina or even Venezuela have a great deal of interest in developing a bloc. Argentina's foreign policy is pretty normal for a country in its position. Venezuela is simply opportunistic: they need a market for their one non-tanked industry.

Venezuela's UNSC seat is of little real consequence. It could be, if a more competent ambassador was there, and if Venezuela had anything to contribute to global security, but neither is the case.

Does this news story hold any bit of truth to it? I would have thought that censoring a public speech on an international forum would be one of the stupidest ideas to be ever done in the Information Age.

Press TV is full of shit and always has been.

edited 20th Oct '14 8:19:49 AM by Achaemenid

Argentina Buying Gripens? Brits Say 'No Way'

The UK could sell them a monkey model, surely?

It's a Swedish plane it just uses British parts.

Ie, so sell them Gripens with downgraded British parts.

Does Argentina even have the money to afford this?

Or did the Evil Colonial Imperialists™ take it all for their vulture funds?

That's still selling them modern fighter planes, which Britain won't do at all.

If there's no UK parts in it, they don't get a say in the matter.

I haven't followed that aircraft's development, but going by the quoted news article, some stuff might be replaceable with parts from elsewhere, but not important gear that makes the design combat-effective (the radar in particular).

edited 12th Nov '14 6:38:37 AM by Nohbody

From a security perspective the sale doesn't pose any kind of real risk, nobody is going to start actually worrying until Argentina tries to modernise its navy.

Still I doubt it will go though, if the Swedes have to chose between British involvement or Argentine involvement they're likely to go British, push come to shove our tech is already on the plane.

Now if the Brazilian government went to bat for Argentina I could see it happening, but why would they?

Both the Summary he posted and the article itself details the components which are british, which includes the Radar.

Falkland Islands are Argentine signs 'regrettable' Putting those signs everywhere just seems childish of Argentina.

I found this report interesting while seeing how Argentina was getting on: Is Argentina's Falklands secretary the ultimate minister without portfolio?

Apparently he refuses to actually go to Las Malvinas despite other Argentines going on over for holidays etc. and the Falklands government saying they'd be pleased for him to come. 's funny that Mr. Filmus says the locals would be very happy under Argentine rule yet never attempts to go there and talk to them about it...

edited 22nd Nov '14 2:03:37 PM by betaalpha

...I guess he knows the reaction he'll get?

Double Post: Top Gear: Argentina makes formal complaint to the BBC

I can't wait for the actual episode.

Read: They didn't publicly issue Clarkson with his P45 and make a grovelling unreserved apology for being an imperialist mouthpiece.

Argentine Courts have ruled an orangutang living in the Buenos Aires Zoo should enjoy some human rights.

Falklands defence review after military deal between Russia and Argentina — Hmm...

That's an "What are ethics?" Express exclusive, so I'd be careful with it.

Plus there's no real worry of anything being possible to happen unless Argentina rearms its navy, military planners will be focusing on that not the air force.

The Argentine Navy and Air Force have both been allowed to wither on the vine in the absence of conventional threats, and both are unlikely to be able to attack the Falkland Islands any time soon. The FAA in particular has still not, over thirty years later, replenished its losses from the 1982 conflict.

Can we discuss something else?

Sure, got a suggestion?