General Star Wars Thread

I would imagine that's something that would happen in 9, tbh.

Oh and make sure he is completely cut off from the force too.

crossposting from XKCD:

You know, there's a lot of parallels between the Pirates of the Caribbean and Star Wars. The common laborer who becomes a famed hero warrior whose father works for his worst enemy, the young lady who specializes in diplomacy but is more than capable of kicking ass when diplomacy fails and who takes advantage of her own captivity to bring down an enemy, the self-serving criminal ship captain who flees from a fight, but has a change of heart and returns to help the heroes turn a battle around. I mean dang. I think Disney has wanted to buy Star Wars for a lot longer than we knew.

That's no (moon) accident. Pirates draws on all the same pulp adventure sources as Star Wars— including Star Wars.

edited 7th Dec '16 1:43:16 PM by Unsung

Hell, the wanted criminal's criminal past catching up to him, causing him to be captured and Put on a Bus in a Not Quite Dead sort of way, then the crew having to stage a heroic rescue.

Picking up a black character on the way who helps them reclaim said lost criminal.

A tall, thin, overly verbose character alongside a short, foul-tempered character who argue and bumble around and yet somehow never get killed, except for the one time C3P0 got blasted by imperial stormtroopers.

Last scene of episode 9:

Kylo Ren: You'll never turn me to the light. You have failed, Master Skywalker. I am a Sith Lord like my grandfather before me.

-stabs and kills Luke and walks up the throne to assume the title of Emperor-

No thanks.

And there's no Sith anymore b/c Anakin fulfilled the prophecy.

edited 7th Dec '16 4:53:32 PM by higherbrainpattern

IF they go down that route, Luke will be out of the picture well before then. Rey's the protagonist, she's the mirror to Ren in this case. There's not a chance they are going to squander that by having Luke being raised back into main character status.

Like....I dunno about you guys, but Star Wars isn't some edgy Game of Thrones knockoff In Space, so it's certainly not going to act like it by resulting in Kylo Ren becoming Emperor of the galaxy or some shit.

(I hope. I hope.)

edited 7th Dec '16 5:08:51 PM by higherbrainpattern

Where did anyone imply that?

I feel like to keep Ren from being a total Vader knockoff he has to either stay evil and die, stay evil and live (be imprisoned?), or turn good and live, and the latter would likely be... difficult to pull off satisfactorily.

edited 7th Dec '16 5:32:39 PM by HamburgerTime

idk, man, sounds like something that wouldn't be out of Game of Thrones' wheelhouse.

edited 7th Dec '16 5:36:35 PM by higherbrainpattern

He's a Karma Houdini if he's redeemed and lives.

He's a Vader clone if he's redeemed and dies .

So this necessitates that Kylo Ren stay evil until the end and die or assume power or pull a Darth Mail.

Did you watch Revenge of the Sith?

Anything dark = Game of Thrones now, I guess

We might as well say that Kylie Ren killing his dad was Game of Thronesy since that actually does happen in both so Star Wars is already aping GOT.

edited 7th Dec '16 5:40:05 PM by MadSkillz

Kylo Ren killing his dad in the first movie of the ST isn't the same thing as Kylo Ren surviving until the very end of the trilogy and becoming the evil ruler of the galaxy minutes after killing Luke or something.

Like I said, he doesn't have to win if he lives. He can be locked up, maybe.

Honestly, I'd actually kind of prefer it if the Republic managed to capture him and put him on trial.

What if Ren gets redeemed, lives, and spends the rest of his life doing charity work and all around trying to fix the messes he made? Would that still be a Karma Houdini?

I'd kind of like to see Rey defeat Kylo in their final duel, but - at Leia's request, probably - spare his life and bring him in alive. He's tried by the Republic and sentenced to a maximum security facility in the ass-end-of-nowhere with the implication that he'll do some semi-penance there or something.

sounds like Arkham Asylum in Space right there.

As for the other villains, Snoke I see falling to Luke around the same time Rey fights Kylo (they could intercut the battles, even); Hux, for some reason, I like the idea of him being ejected into space; Phasma I have no clue. Part of me wants her to live but I realize that's kinda giving the girl "special treatment."

I'm trying to imagine what the endgame is for other characters in the franchise, but honestly, it's very hard to do so, given that there's so much we don't even know about Episode VIII yet.

Hey speaking of Phasma: given that they've promised both a bigger role for her and a more physical role for Finn, I'm hoping we get a fight between them.

To be honest I think that when Luke and Snoke fight it's going to be a sheer contest of the Force, rather than lightsabers.

yes!!! Hope they both have a confrontation.

Given that John Boyega has said that his role in Episode 8 is a lot more physical than it was in seven, I hope Finn kicks a lot of ass/is in a lot of fights.

I want Rey/Finn as the series' first Jedi/muggle Battle Couple (or Bash Brothers on the unlikely chance they don't end up romantically involved).

Even Rex and Anakin/Ahsoka rarely fought as Back-to-Back Badasses, but I really love the idea of a force user and non-force user fighting in tandem dynamic duo style. And if there's one thing I really like about the fight choreography in the sequel trilogy (or at least, in Force Awakens, which may change given the director change), it's that it lends itself to that sort of thing, and multiple people taking on battles together (without being an army) in general.

edited 7th Dec '16 6:21:21 PM by KnownUnknown