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Deadlock Clock: Mar 21st 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#26: Dec 20th 2011 at 12:37:31 PM

Who even wrote that crowner?

Cut Guide Dang It.Game Guides
Keep and cut the bad examples

...There's no GOOD examples. None of them match the definition of Guide Dang It!. So both options are the same thing. Only one of them keeps a blank page.

edited 20th Dec '11 12:37:53 PM by Ghilz

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#27: Dec 20th 2011 at 1:00:25 PM

Split it off into "Guides that do not contain the answer to Guide Dang It! s" imo.

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LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
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#28: Dec 22nd 2011 at 11:52:00 AM

Ghilz,

I made the crowner and I added that option because some people mentioned just taking out the complaining magnet examples. I apologize if that was unclear from the crowner itself. While I agree that there really are no good examples, I thought it was better to try to be neutral when putting together the crowner.

Thanks for bringing that to my attention though.

edited 22nd Dec '11 11:54:16 AM by LouieW

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#29: Mar 14th 2012 at 2:19:12 PM

Isn't this supposed to be locked?

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#30: Mar 14th 2012 at 3:02:39 PM

Why? This strikes me as something that would benefit from more input. Most people agree that "doing nothing" is not the right solution, and people disagree about what is.

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#31: Mar 14th 2012 at 3:08:53 PM

Somehow it had been moved to the morgue, but wasn't locked. I've moved it back out, since there is no indication that it's concluded.

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#32: Mar 14th 2012 at 3:44:19 PM

Wherever this belongs, this dose not belong under Guide Dang It!. I don't really think we need a page for complaining about bad guides at all.

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#33: Mar 14th 2012 at 3:52:44 PM

Considering there's way more downvotes in the crowner than counterarguments in the thread, I think this is a case of drive-by voting by people who haven't actually read the thread. So maybe we should just get more votes from people who have.

It's pretty obvious that a trope about needing a guidebook to pass some part of a game cannot apply to a medium that's not a game. What's next, Guide Dang It! / Films where people assert that you need a guidebook to play the video?

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
Videogamer07 from the U.S. Since: Oct, 2010
#34: Mar 14th 2012 at 9:30:47 PM

I'd rather just move the examples to a new trope page, but I'm probably in the minority here.

It could be useful for those who are thinking of getting a guide for a certain game, but don't know how much it doesn't cover, or what information is incorrect.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#35: Mar 14th 2012 at 9:40:59 PM

Purpose of this page: "To inform about the shortcomings of certain game guides."

Cut.

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#36: Mar 19th 2012 at 2:49:53 PM

Crowner called.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#37: Mar 19th 2012 at 2:54:12 PM

Cutlisted it, removed the wicks and made the note on the discussion page.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#39: Mar 19th 2012 at 3:08:18 PM

Don't know, but in case they need the content of this page, I've rescued it over to Sandbox.Guide Dang It Game Guides.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#40: Mar 20th 2012 at 8:59:38 AM

It's been cut now, but the re-YKTTW'ing[up][up] - opinions?

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#41: Mar 20th 2012 at 9:09:29 AM

Well, what we don't need is a page of "complaining about guidebooks you don't like".

What would be interesting is a page about books that don't contain what they're advertised to contain. That would include strategy guides that lack pertinent strategies, but it's broader than that: it would also include e.g. a "get rich quick" guide that doesn't actually tell you how to get rich. This can be an objective trope.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#42: Mar 20th 2012 at 11:23:46 PM

I looked a little bit more at the sandbox of stuff that was deleted and I am not convinced that this is something we want to have as a trope. It just looks like complaining.

[up] Like, that could be a trope, but I doubt there'd be anything to salvage from here for it.

edited 20th Mar '12 11:24:28 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
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#43: Mar 21st 2012 at 3:04:02 AM

[up] I concur.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#44: Mar 30th 2012 at 11:56:27 AM

Alright. Posting to announce that if someone wants to re-YKTTW a trope as mentioned in Raso's post, they are free to do so and use Sandbox.Guide Dang It Game Guides if they need it.

Here, we are done. Lock-hollering.

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PageAction: GuideDangItGameGuides
20th Dec '11 12:12:21 PM

Crown Description:

  1. The page is rife with complaining.
  2. The page's content does not match the definition of Guide Dang It, meaning every example on it is a case of misuse, fueling Trope Decay.

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