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Image changed without consensus: Painting The Medium get usage counts

Cure Candy
@Kenshinta,

That is Imagine Spotting not this.
Painting the Fourth Wall is "user interface, camera tricks, etc. convey things about the story." It is changes to the fourth wall that affect (or say stuff about) things inside the walls. The "old" OOTS image (the one in the OP) seems like the best in this thread.

I changed my mind: that is a bad image. It depicts two tropes—Painting the Fourth Wall (the demon's black-and-red speech bubble) in the top frame, and Breaking the Fourth Wall (Elan whispering about it) in the bottom—which is confusing.

edited 20th Feb '12 1:34:33 AM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel.
Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
The awkward thing is that I can come up with a whole bunch of great examples that would work...but all of them fit better in the subtropes.

The current image fits better on the subtrope too; we just haven't split off that subtrope yet.

edited 29th Jan '12 5:30:46 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
We're looking for a version that doesn't break the fourth wall? So just a version of the current picture without lampshading would work?

Gaze into my evil-colored speech bubble!

edited 21st Feb '12 12:01:57 AM by abk0100

Someone in another thread suggested an image of a videogame using the 'blood on the screen' effect that many games currently use to convey damage.

Dragon Writer
That would not make a good image.
[up][up] That's covered by one of the subtropes, Camera Abuse.

edited 23rd Feb '12 11:13:55 AM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
[up] Not Camera Abuse, which involves something physically affecting the camera, not the camera conveying something actually having the characteristics of your avatar. The "bleeding" screen shows you are injured by creating a literal red haze. my suggestion was a split-screen showing before-and-after.
 
Dragon Writer
Before-and-after pics are usually the wrong way to go if it's something you can express as a single pic.
I don't object to the "gaze into the face of fear one", but after the discussion on the trope itself in TRS I am planning on launching a YKTTW specifically about visual inflections in text, especially speech balloons. That may be relevant if you are planning on avoiding subtrope specific versions.
 
 37 nitrokitty, Fri, 24th Feb '12 1:39:29 AM Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
The OOTS picture is horrendous. I'd support no pic over that overcomplicated mess.

I got rid of the OOOT picture. This is a case where it really is misleading in a harmful way. The trope's being renamed partially so that people stop confusing it with Medium Awareness and other Breaking the Fourth Wall tropes, and the picture isn't helping.

I'm good with Troacctid's suggestion, at least for now.

Elan Hangs A Lampshade on the different colors of speech balloons.

edited 24th Feb '12 2:04:26 AM by abk0100

Euo will do!
I've just found a different OotS example which I'm possibly going to tweak to fit. (And, look pretty.) But, I thought I'd give a heads up using the full page, first.

I'm probably going to mess with panels 7-9.

Possible caption: "Behold! The awesome power of differently coloured speech bubbles!"

Note: I'll tweak at some point during the rest of the week.

edited 14th Mar '12 6:29:36 PM by Euodiachloris

"When all else failed, she tried being reasonable." ~ Pratchett, Johnny and the Bomb
Good example, but not a good image I don't think. Doesn't say anything about the speech bubbles or why they might not be white.

Maybe panels 4-5? But not sure.
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel.
Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
A potential image source: Understanding Comics should have plenty of Conversed examples, as it explores comics as a medium.

 42 Final Starman, Sat, 24th Mar '12 10:17:54 AM from Clinton, Massachusetts
Winged Doom
I suggest a page from The Order of the Stick that would have several different-colored bubbles. For example, one or both of the first two panels of #646 (4 different colors on first panel, 3 on second).

Possible caption may involve Color-Coded for Your Convenience.

Also, I found the Pogo image rather non-obvious: my first thought was that it was some poster or title card, rather than a speech bubble.

edited 24th Mar '12 12:17:12 PM by OneMore

WE CLAIM THIS LAND FOR THE HIGH LORD. GOD BLESS THIS LAND AND OUR HIGH LORD.
Very Manly Muppet
I kinda like the Pogo image. The lettering is very obvious, with or without caption, and it doesn't have the fourth wall issue.
Actually a girl.
 45 Oroboro, Sat, 24th Mar '12 10:01:14 PM Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Gamemaster
Perhaps this?

[[:]]

>_>

edited 24th Mar '12 10:04:04 PM by Oroboro

Without love, it cannot be seen. [1]
From #30:

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel.
Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Winged Doom
Regarding my OOTS suggestion, here they are. I had to edit them to remove extraneous bubbles, and I think someone who can actually edit images would do better.

edited 24th Mar '12 11:04:54 PM by OneMore

WE CLAIM THIS LAND FOR THE HIGH LORD. GOD BLESS THIS LAND AND OUR HIGH LORD.
Winged Doom
Bump. Any thoughts on my images?
WE CLAIM THIS LAND FOR THE HIGH LORD. GOD BLESS THIS LAND AND OUR HIGH LORD.
Terradorablyfying
I really like 46, much more than Oot S. It's a good image whilst very unusual.
Merge those duplicates! Fix that factual error! Delete that shoehorned non-example! You have the power! Meta Four
 50 Willbyr, Wed, 28th Mar '12 10:29:36 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
That may be the only Pogo pic I've seen on the wiki, so I think I'll support it.
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