Will the U.S. last a millennium?

Mexico would never joind the US

If Anything the US would join Mexico (If their was a Latino majority in the US) which by then would be part of the United States of South America.

Then We would have a new nation called... you guessed it. The (TRUE) United States of (ALL) America. With the exception of Canada and possibly Brazil.

edited 25th Sep '11 8:16:50 AM by Baff

EDIT: This is so badly off topic I can't see the shore any more.

edited 25th Sep '11 9:18:01 AM by GameChainsaw

... I like that concept. The True United States of All America indeed!

I wouldn't really mind that, I guess, if we weren't forcing anyone to join. If I were alive when it happened I might be kind of surprised at the sudden culture shock of having half the country now be Spanish-speaking with totally different standards on everything, but...

The country would be more religious, and women's rights might take a hit. Crime would be an issue, and the internal drug trade would explode. Also, the infrastructure would be so ridiculously mismatched it wouldn't even be funny, and the US-proper would have to change to Metric.

Assuming we did it tomorrow, of course. Who knows what could change in the future...

I think the US proper will have to change to metric regardless.

Not necessarily. Cultural inertia can easily overpower the rather meager benefits of changing in terms of reasoning.

Conversely, if we were suddenly around double in population, and most of the new half was pro-Metric, we'd probably have enough people in favor to make the change regardless of cultural inertia here. Or perhaps it would just change to dual-use...

Thread-hop:

I've seen some people bring it up before, but it needs to be pointed out don't have the same government we did in 2007. A government the institutions and people who make them up, the institutions and the governing system are a regime.

So yeah, I don't expect the current US government to last until 2018, let alone 2776!

Now, the current Regime has a decent shot at lasting a very long time provided the US can maintain a position near the top of the global ladder.

Actually hispanic countries are less religious than the US.

Youd be surprise. They are also more liberal. Sure there are some countries that are more religious than others but over all thay are pretty secular societies.

For example, many latin american countries have had women presidents.

edited 25th Sep '11 6:23:36 PM by Baff

They're more fiscally liberal, but from what I know of Mexico they're quite socially conservative (or at least on par with the US-proper) and Mexico is a big chunk of the Latin American population (assuming Brazil doesn't join, since I don't think it would)...

Having a female president doesn't necessarily mean they're particularly liberal.

Margaret Thatcher was a staunch conservative who overturned many decisions made by the ousted opposition.

Well. I know Mexico and I know South America and let me tell you that the thing that most shocked me about the US is how Religious it was. Sure, since then I have nationalised and Ive come to love this country. But yes, It still surprises me how conservative it is.

For example. Colombia, the country I am from is usually painted as the most conservative country in South America, and yet, its like San Fransisco liberal.

You also have to understand that Northern Mexico is like rural Missisipi to South America. The have very bad problems about gender violence in the north. SO maybe that is why you have that conception.

edited 25th Sep '11 6:37:25 PM by Baff

Mexico is not the topic. Neither is Latin American countries, or Canada.

Re-rail please.

Sorry.

I really cant tell how the US will be in the year 2700.

But in the year 2200 it will probably have a hispanic and Catholic majority. And sicne Catholicism is a lot less harsher that puritanism (u can also say we are more hypocritical) then actually women will have more rights and sex will not cause panic. There might also be more criminality do, in that I agree.

edited 25th Sep '11 6:41:40 PM by Baff

Liberalism and Conservatism don't really enter into the equation for the longevity of the American regime/state.

I mean, you could argue that a certain culture would be beneficial, but that's not a factor that can be predicted with any sort of reliability.

^Well, I can see a Hispanic majority, but I highly doubt Catholicism will come to dominate the cultural scene in any greatly increased way.

edited 25th Sep '11 6:44:54 PM by HungryJoe

a 1000 years its too long. We cant realistically discuss that...I mean, look at how much things have cahnged in the first 200 years.

I think it's impressive that we've lasted this long without a complete revision of our government. I think Switzerland and one or two others are the only ones who even come close.

Baff, you mean Protestantism. Puritanism is mostly the original colonists; I don't think anyone claims to be a Puritan these days. (Also, Mexico and the US would not be the United States of South America, given both countries are on the North American continent.)

Anyway, as far as the future goes I can see reforms and the like being pushed through to change how our legislature represents us. Maybe the House could turn to the proportional representation as far as parties go, which would let in parties other than Reps and Dems. (Right now, proportional representation means, for us, that each state is represented according to our population. California has more than all the other states.)

Though it would probably be far easier to push through changes like that in the state legislatures; it's kind of how things seem to be shaping up. States push through legislation and the like on particular subjects, it spreads (such as legalizing gay marriage right now) across the country as the voting public gets taken over by the younger, more liberal crowd.

One thousand years is possible, seeing as we stretch "from see to shining sea", though we might merge or trade territory with our neighbors once or twice in so long a time.

The question is, what about two thousand years? So far, only a select few have held that claim.

What nations are there that have been around 2000 years? I don't think any European state can claim to be 2000 years old. I think Rome, from foundation of Rome to the collapse of the Byzantine empire, made it, but considering that the empire had split permanently into two pieces by that point in time, its hard to credit them as being the same state.

No, I don't think there's a single civilisation... wait, bar Egypt. Egypt was fecking ancient. Civilisations seem to have lasted longer back then.

It also change from a monarchy to a republic, to an empire. The republic itself lasted something like 500 years which is on itself impresive.

@Ace Of Spades. Do I agree with the puritan protestant thing I see u didnt read my post corectly.

It's worth noting that the current Regime is actually already one of the oldest in the world. There are nations and states older, yes, but they've changed their system of government more recently.

so longest lasting large republic is Rome, with America behind at about 235 years