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BrainSewage from that one place Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Sep 9th 2011 at 8:16:15 PM

When I was a kid, I was always so inspired by news stories of very intelligent robots and the possibilites they offered for a bright future. But now, as I continue with my college education (dual chemistry/history major- don't ask), all I can think of when I hear about robot bartenders and humanlike A.I.s, is unemployment.

Seriously, it's just depressing, but it makes so much sense. Why would any sane entrepeneur hire workers when he could get an AI to do the work for free? With the power of technology increasing exponentially, year by year, how long will it be before we meatbags become obsolete?

No, I am not a Luddite, and I realize current computers don't hold a candle to the human brain. But I need to look to future, and I can't help but believe I am living on borrowed time.

edited 9th Sep '11 8:16:57 PM by BrainSewage

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Zersk o-o from Columbia District, BNA Since: May, 2010
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#2: Sep 9th 2011 at 8:17:28 PM

Jobs to maintain machines open up. :3

ALSO.

"Cars are horrible, they'll cause the people who scoop poop up after horses to go out of business!"

Also if you ask a transhumanists then we (or someone) joins up with the computers.

edited 9th Sep '11 8:18:10 PM by Zersk

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#3: Sep 9th 2011 at 8:18:19 PM

This is why you should support robot rights. END MECHANICAL SLAVERY NOW!

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Zersk o-o from Columbia District, BNA Since: May, 2010
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#4: Sep 9th 2011 at 8:19:33 PM

Carbon chauvanism!

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KitsuneInferno Jackass Detector from East Tennessee Since: Apr, 2009
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#5: Sep 9th 2011 at 8:19:41 PM

So we then have to compete with them for wages? Robots don't have kids to feed!

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt." - Some guy with a snazzy hat.
Zersk o-o from Columbia District, BNA Since: May, 2010
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#6: Sep 9th 2011 at 8:20:02 PM

Unless they're Von Neumann machines.

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Quarterman Picture not related from Side 7 Since: Aug, 2011
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#7: Sep 9th 2011 at 8:20:30 PM

@Tzetze We're here! We're 010011101110! Get used to it!

BrainSewage from that one place Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Sep 9th 2011 at 8:22:15 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]I know, people had the same fears during the Industrial Revolution, even though that era seems to have helped us out a bit. Problem is, those jobs went somewhere. If computers are soon to take over everything, then who's to say there won't be computers who oversee computers who oversee computers...

That sounds expensive now that I think about it, but hey- so are people.

edited 9th Sep '11 8:23:03 PM by BrainSewage

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#9: Sep 9th 2011 at 8:32:59 PM

Jobs are a necessary evil, not a right or a privilege. Working is not part a natural part of the human condition. The fact that we won't need to do certain things because robots do them for us can only be a good thing. The problem is our stupid economy and the philosophies governing it.

KitsuneInferno Jackass Detector from East Tennessee Since: Apr, 2009
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#10: Sep 9th 2011 at 8:38:29 PM

I envision a world where machines dictate everything. They are the welcome wagon, your legs, and the master accountants while the humans pore over their work in a futile attempt to feel useful.

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt." - Some guy with a snazzy hat.
Merlo *hrrrrrk* from the masochist chamber Since: Oct, 2009
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#11: Sep 9th 2011 at 8:38:48 PM

Will we have robot lawyers and robot cops?

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CountSpatula Possible Stomatopod from Oh, some lunar colony Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#12: Sep 9th 2011 at 8:39:07 PM

Pshah, robots. Bioconstructs are really where it's at folks.

I draws things. And I seem to be some sort of marine entity.
Zersk o-o from Columbia District, BNA Since: May, 2010
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#13: Sep 9th 2011 at 8:40:34 PM

Nah, man, you're thinking Quantam Constructs. :3

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#14: Sep 9th 2011 at 9:26:24 PM

Jobs to maintain machines open up.

Don't be silly. It takes way fewer people to maintain the machines than it does to do the work the machines do. If it didn't, nobody would use the machines!

This article is relevant.

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Landstander God Of Cake from Somewhere else Since: Jan, 2001
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#15: Sep 9th 2011 at 9:52:44 PM

It will be a long, long time until we will have robots as a threat to actual customer service oriented jobs.

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BrainSewage from that one place Since: Jan, 2001
#16: Sep 9th 2011 at 10:19:03 PM

[up]Yeah, because you can totally support a family as a clerk at Staples.

[up][up]Good article. I just have a hard time believing humans could ever cooperate on that level. I dunno. Maybe I just like to have something to be pessimistic about.

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Landstander God Of Cake from Somewhere else Since: Jan, 2001
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#17: Sep 9th 2011 at 10:31:55 PM

But plenty of jobs require good people skills that can still pay the bills. That will be the hardest part of getting a robot to really feel human, making them really understand the nuances of human interaction.

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Teemo SPACE Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#18: Sep 10th 2011 at 12:25:34 AM

Will we have robot lawyers and robot cops?

You rang?

Kraken Since: Jun, 2012
#19: Sep 10th 2011 at 12:27:14 AM

Robots don't have intuition.

That doesn't seem like a big thing, but it is. So many jobs require human intuition and noticing when things seem just a little bit off.

Robots will make our lives much easier to a degree. But they can never replace man in many things.

imojee Be evil from The Desert Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: In bed with a green-skinned space babe
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#20: Sep 10th 2011 at 1:40:50 AM

I, for one, welcome our robot brothers and sisters with open arms.

Through the eyes I have known you.
Ailedhoo Heroic Comedic Sociopath from an unknown location Since: Aug, 2011
#21: Sep 10th 2011 at 1:51:39 AM

I remember a friend saying that the Final Epoc would occure when techology starts to replace all the workers.

I see robots as a advancement of our mental evolution. If we can make a machaince that can think for itself then we have proved ourselfs a grand creator. Through this we will evolve.

I’m a lumberjack and I’m ok. I sleep all night and work all day.
Sakan4k from The Other Rainforest Since: Dec, 2010
#22: Sep 10th 2011 at 2:36:10 AM

Dammit, imojee! I was going to say something similar.

We're still in the Industrial Revolution, when you think about it. Similar problems, but we don't have any known saboteurs as of yet and I doubt they'd be throwing wooden shoes into the works.

RTaco Since: Jul, 2009
#23: Sep 10th 2011 at 2:52:32 AM

While it's nice to look into the distant future and see a world where humans are all pampered by robots who do all the work, the part in between (where not everyone has access to them, and the one's who don't can't find work) is less pretty.

And, unfortunately, there's not really anything we can do that an advanced enough machine can't do more efficiently. Nearly all customer support lines are automated nowadays, only switching over to an actual person if you give 'em "No, that's not what I'm calling about" enough times.

edited 10th Sep '11 2:53:45 AM by RTaco

InverurieJones '80s TV Action Hero from North of the Wall. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#24: Sep 10th 2011 at 5:34:30 AM

'Pampered' humans are fat, decadent, worthless creatures. As soon as that world becomes reality, we're finished as a species.

The people who had fears about the industrial revolution turned out to be completely right, as is obvious if you actually look at the state of most 'developed' economies. Officially unemployment in the US is 9.1%, but I've seen a variety of sources claim it's nearer 20%.

Yay, machines...

edited 10th Sep '11 5:37:07 AM by InverurieJones

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Kraken Since: Jun, 2012
#25: Sep 10th 2011 at 5:37:31 AM

Nearly all customer support lines are automated nowadays, only switching over to an actual person if you give 'em "No, that's not what I'm calling about" enough times.
Do you know how many times I just went straight to the operators?

Every. Time.

[up]I think that has more to do with economic conditions than anything else.

edited 10th Sep '11 5:38:40 AM by Kraken


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