Oh, well from the title and the description I thought it would sound a lot worse than it did. Not that it was necessary in the first place.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Respect the Red Right Hand
...I actually kinda like this.
[Is burned at stake for heresy.]
The first one I don't mind that much.
The second ruins the dramatic moment.
Pirate AND writer!
If it really is that Big "NO!", then I say we start a boycott.
edited 30th Aug '11 8:07:09 PM by Mort08
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Mighty No. 51345
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Perfection?
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Yeah, no. The change isn't really that bad.
I'm out.
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
Yeah. I like all six Star Warses, but Jedi is far from perfection.
Don't care one way or another on these changes, because I have no plans to buy this new version.
I didn't write any of that.
Seconded. I already have two different versions that I'm very happy with already. It's not like I'm interested in a new version at this point.
That said, that first "No" Vader did, the calm one, sounded pretty good. Really good, actually. And the second one... wasn't terrible.
edited 30th Aug '11 8:21:39 PM by KnownUnknown
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
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I agree with this. If they just leave in the first one and make that the only change I would not care.
It's not like the giant shout he let out in the third. It's much more calm and seems to be more of a, "my god, I'm allowing this to happen again?" thing.
No, I don't like that at all. It's turning one of the most brilliant scenes of the entire saga and turning it into complete narm. It just feels wrong to have Vader saying anything there at all. What the fuck's the point? What does it add other than some horrible call back to an inferior trilogy? We know what's going on, we know what he's thinking, why does he have to say something? Just for the shit of it?
Once again, people will be watching the big moment of the movie - the last big moment of the trilogy - and think "what the fuck?"
edited 30th Aug '11 8:53:22 PM by TheBatPencil
And let us pray that come it may (As come it will for a' that)
I am vexed!
I believe that a creator should be allowed to change a work after it has been published. However, George Lucas keeps on doing changes that make the films worse so there's clearly problems with that belief. But this change isn't bad, it's not too over the top and it's a call back to the big no in episode three. Which if you count it as two trilogies then there is a bit of mirroring going on. However, the big no in episode 3 was narmy and this one, while not narmy itself, can only remind viewers of an actual narmy moment.
edited 30th Aug '11 10:20:09 PM by Gvzbgul
Perfection? You wish.
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
Hey! ROTJ is my favorite Star Wars movie!
I am vexed!
ROTJ may not be perfect as a whole, but the Luke/Vader stuff is damn good.
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man, you guys are taking the whole perfection thing way to seriously... -_-;;
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
What do you expect? It's long been established that Star Wars fans hate Star Wars
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Just a teapot
I'm surprised that no one had declared that they Do Not Want.
Insert witty one-liner here.
State of Mind
I know my local Best Buy thinks they will be popular, they're already reserving sets.
"What a century this week has been." - Seung Min Kim
I Am The Walrus
At this point, is it really a big deal? It was to be expected.
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Jonah Falcon
People already bought their DV Ds. I doubt they'll purchase this one.
Every new new DVD sitting on a warehouse unsold is a ballot for "FUCK YOU, JUST STOP IT!"
Jonah Falcon
Jonah Falcon
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=622535
From this thread, I see that Lucas is tinkering with the Star Wars films again for the blu-ray release. If Vader's "noooooooo" isn't a parody, it's yet more damage done to the original, where an expressionless mask somehow conveyed what Vader was thinking perfectly at that point. It got me wondering how he could achieve maximum damage to his legacy.
- Play-up Luke as the whiny teenager. "I have to do my chores first? That's soooo unfair!" - Further sanitise the character of Han Solo by making a smuggler of medical supplies past imperial blockades. "Even I get boarded sometimes... those poor children." - Jar-Jar cameos. He could be a high-ranking leader of the rebel alliance by the time of the original trilogy. Wouldn't be difficult to CGI him into the command bunker at the battle of Yavin. "Yousa turn off targetting computer Luke!" He could also replace Admiral Ackbar in Jedi. - Add midochlorian references to the original trilogy. "The force is strong in this one. His midochlorian count must be exceedingly high." - Have Luke scare the wampa off using his lightsabre, can't have him getting choppy on a clearly endangered species. - Can't have Luke using his jedi powers to trick simple ewoks, have him give an impassioned speech instead. - Actually, thinking about it, Obi-Wan lying to Luke about the whole Vader thing is really acceptable either. "Your father wanted you to have this... before he turned to evil and became DARTH VADER!"
edited 31st Aug '11 2:33:02 PM by JAF1970
Jonah Falcon
Methinks yousa is exaggerating.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
Dude, they're just really good movies. It's not like it's a religious text* .
If had been a replica of Revenge Of The Sith in that moment but this,..... THIS???? (Gets hysterical) In the best movie of the whole sextet?!?
NnnnOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter
http://www.badassdigest.com/2011/08/30/did-lucas-add-vader-crying-noooooo-to-return-of-the-jedi
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