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TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#126: Oct 25th 2011 at 11:56:10 AM

The Society Of Friends has NOTHING to do with Quaker oats, which was set up by a non-quaker, using a model who wasn't a quaker.

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Sakan4k from The Other Rainforest Since: Dec, 2010
#127: Oct 26th 2011 at 1:09:59 AM

Neo-Pagan (100%)
Reform Judaism (86%)
Unitarian Universalism (84%)
New Age (76%)
Liberal Quakers (71%)
Mahayana Buddhism (68%)
Baha'i Faith (67%)
Jainism (65%)
Sikhism (62%)
Orthodox Judaism (60%)
Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (60%)
New Thought (56%)
Theravada Buddhism (55%)
Secular Humanism (53%)
Scientology (52%)
Hinduism (52%)
Taoism (51%)
Islam (50%)
Nontheist (44%)
Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (37%)
Orthodox Quaker (37%)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (29%)
Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (29%) Seventh Day Adventist (17%)
Eastern Orthodox (13%)
Roman Catholic (13%)
Jehovah's Witness (8%)

Reform Judaism? Didn't see that one coming. I'm surprised I didn't score higher on the Buddhist ones, myself. It had quite an influence on me in my younger years.

edited 26th Oct '11 1:14:55 AM by Sakan4k

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#128: Oct 26th 2011 at 6:04:51 AM

  1. Eastern Orthodox (100%)
  2. Roman Catholic (100%)
  3. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (90%)
  4. Orthodox Quaker (85%)
  5. Orthodox Judaism (85%)
  6. Baha'i Faith (85%)
  7. Seventh Day Adventist (84%)
  8. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (82%)
  9. Islam (74%)
  10. Sikhism (72%)
  11. Hinduism (72%)
  12. Liberal Quakers (63%)
  13. Reform Judaism (58%)
  14. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (57%)
  15. Jehovah's Witness (55%)
  16. Jainism (55%)
  17. Unitarian Universalism (53%)
  18. Mahayana Buddhism (46%)
  19. Theravada Buddhism (44%)
  20. Neo-Pagan (37%)
  21. New Age (34%)
  22. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (30%)
  23. New Thought (30%)
  24. Scientology (29%)
  25. Nontheist (21%)
  26. Secular Humanism (19%)
  27. Taoism (15%)

It doesn't make a distinction between high and low church Protestant, which is a huge deal to me. Nor is there one between whether practices are ethical because of moral realism or divine command theory.

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ArlaGrey Since: Jun, 2010
#129: Oct 26th 2011 at 6:53:02 AM

edited 21st Jun '17 5:23:27 AM by ArlaGrey

JusticeMan You complete me. from Maryland ! Since: Mar, 2011
You complete me.
Jeysie Diva of Virtual Death from Western Massachusetts Since: Jun, 2010
Diva of Virtual Death
#131: Oct 26th 2011 at 7:56:45 AM

Apparently I'm:

  1. Secular Humanism (100%)
  2. Unitarian Universalism (92%)
  3. Liberal Quakers (78%)

(Didn't feel like giving my e-mail for the whole thing.)

edited 26th Oct '11 7:56:53 AM by Jeysie

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Accela Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
#132: Oct 26th 2011 at 8:04:15 AM

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (100%)
Jehovah's Witness (96%)
Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (79%)
Orthodox Quaker (78%)
Sikhism (75%)
Baha'i Faith (75%)
Orthodox Judaism (74%)
Liberal Quakers (73%)
Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (72%)
Eastern Orthodox (65%)
Roman Catholic (65%)
Islam (62%)
Reform Judaism (62%)
Unitarian Universalism (60%)
Seventh Day Adventist (58%)
Jainism (51%)
Mahayana Buddhism (47%)
Theravada Buddhism (45%)
Secular Humanism (44%)
Neo-Pagan (42%)
Hinduism (41%)
Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (40%)
Taoism (37%)
New Age (35%)
Nontheist (28%)
New Thought (26%)
Scientology (23%)

Huh. Apparently I'm more of a Mormon than I am a Witness even though I'm currently a Witness and have been once since I was a kid.

That's...interesting. I wonder what caused that result. It's particularly weird since I strongly disagree with several tenets of Mormon doctrine and answered the questions as to what I genuinely believe.

edited 26th Oct '11 8:09:15 AM by Accela

tropetown Since: Mar, 2011
#133: Oct 26th 2011 at 1:01:00 PM

Unitarian Universalism (100%)

Secular Humanism (97%)

Nontheist (87%)

Theravada Buddhism (83%)

Liberal Quakers (75%)

Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (73%)

Neo-Pagan (71%)

Sikhism (64%)

Taoism (63%)

Reform Judaism (62%)

New Age (52%)

Mahayana Buddhism (50%)

Scientology (45%)

New Thought (43%)

Hinduism (37%)

Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (36%)

Jainism (35%)

Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (35%)

Baha'i Faith (33%)

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (33%)

Orthodox Quaker (29%)

Orthodox Judaism (26%)

Seventh Day Adventist (26%)

Eastern Orthodox (24%)

Islam (24%)

Roman Catholic (24%)

Jehovah's Witness (6%)

edited 26th Oct '11 1:01:28 PM by tropetown

Sakan4k from The Other Rainforest Since: Dec, 2010
Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#135: Oct 26th 2011 at 1:27:31 PM

Huh, this looks interesting. *sees that I have to put in an e-mail* OK, fake e-mail time.

Your Top 3 Faith Match Profiles Are:

  1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
  2. Secular Humanism (98%)
  3. Liberal Quakers (95%)

Good to know. Now, what does that mean? *Clicks links* Amazing how many times the words "diverse beliefs" appear in there.

One "belief" I like (but do not necessarily follow) is summed up in the tropes Gods Need Prayer Badly and Clap Your Hands If You Believe—the power an individual object or being has is proportional to the amount of faith people have in it.

edited 26th Oct '11 1:29:40 PM by Belian

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Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#136: Oct 26th 2011 at 1:36:20 PM

[up]Heh, that was pretty much my result as well.

1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
2. Secular Humanism (95%)
3. Liberal Quakers (87%)

Clicking the links I discovered "Secular Humanism" is quite spot on for my own believes. I have no freaking idea for why the other two are so high, though. Yeah "diverse beliefs" appear a lot, but none of the specified match myself at all. Weird.

edited 26th Oct '11 1:36:31 PM by Heatth

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#137: Oct 26th 2011 at 2:39:22 PM

"Secular Humanism" is labeled "diverse" because it's not really a religion, just a handy way of defining a certain position regarding religion; namely, not having one. The "humanism" in it is important because it prevents people from misreading notions of nihilism or lack of morality into a lack of religious faith.

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#138: Oct 26th 2011 at 2:42:51 PM

"Q1. What is the number and nature of the deity (God, gods, higher power)?"

No "We cant know for sure" answer? Off to a great start.

Since it seems theres no Agnostic on here.

1. Unitarian Universalism (100%) 2. Secular Humanism (94%) 3. Liberal Quakers (92%)

edited 26th Oct '11 2:52:00 PM by Thorn14

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#139: Oct 26th 2011 at 2:46:04 PM

This test really does lack a proper set of alternatives on some questions, but it isn't among the worst I've seen.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
In honor of my 50lb pup
#140: Oct 26th 2011 at 3:00:44 PM

Now for some curiosity/OCD statistics related to this thread:

  • Orthodox Quaker (3)
    • Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (2)
      • Seventh Day Adventist (2)
    • Eastern Orthodox (1)
      • Roman Catholic (1)
  • Secular Humanism (29)
    • Unitarian Universalism (28)
      • Liberal Quakers (10)
      • Nontheist (13)
      • Theravada Buddhism (5)
    • Nontheist (1) (Wow. I almost put Milos Stefanovic's entry in with the others because I was so used to seeing N and UU the other way around)
      • Unitarian Universalism (1)
  • Mahayana Buddhism (2)
    • Neo-Pagan (1)
      • New Age (1)
    • Theravada Buddhism (1)
      • Unitarian Universalism (1)
  • Theravada Buddhism (1)
    • Mahayana Buddhism (1)
      • Unitarian Universalism (1)
  • Unitarian Universalism (10)
    • Secular Humanism (8)
      • Liberal Quakers (5)
      • Nontheist (2)
      • Theravada Buddhism (1)
    • Theravada Buddhism (1)
      • Liberal Quakers (1)
    • Liberal Quakers (1)
      • Neo-Pagan (1)
    • Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (1) (stats for "wants to believe" not "actually believes")
      • Liberal Quakers (1)
  • Neo-Pagan (5)
    • Unitarian Universalism (1)
      • New Age (1)
    • Reform Judaism (2)
      • Islam (1)
      • Unitarian Universalism (1)
    • Theravada Buddhism (1)
      • Unitarian Universalism (1)
    • Liberal Quakers (1)
      • New Age (1)
  • Eastern Orthodox (1)
    • Roman Catholic (1)
      • Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (1)
  • Reform Judaism (2)
    • Liberal Quakers (1)
      • Unitarian Universalism (1)
    • Orthodox Judaism (1)
      • Baha'i Faith (1)
  • Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (3)
    • Liberal Quakers (1)
      • Unitarian Universalism (1)
    • Orthodox Quaker (1)
      • Liberal Quakers (1)
    • Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (1)
      • Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (1)
  • Islam (1)
    • Orthodox Judaism (1)
      • Sikhism (1)
  • Nontheist (2) (MRDA 1981 and ekuseruekuseru also broke from the normal order)
    • Secular Humanism (1)
      • Unitarian Universalism (1)
    • Theravada Buddhism (1)
      • Unitarian Universalism (1)
  • Eastern Orthodox (1)
    • Roman Catholic (1)
      • Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (1)
  • Orthodox Judaism (1)
    • Islam (1)
      • Jehovah's Witness (1)
  • Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (1)
    • Jehovah's Witness (1)
      • Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (1)

Totals:

  • Orthodox Quaker (4)
  • Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (4)
  • Seventh Day Adventist (2)
  • Eastern Orthodox (3)
  • Roman Catholic (3)
  • Secular Humanism (38)
  • Unitarian Universalism (47)
  • Liberal Quakers (20)
  • Nontheist (18)
  • Theravada Buddhism (11)
  • Mahayana Buddhism (3)
  • Neo-Pagan (7)
  • New Age (3)
  • Reform Judaism (4)
  • Islam (3)
  • Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (5)
  • Orthodox Judaism (3)
  • Baha'i Faith (1)
  • Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (2)
  • Sikhism (1)
  • Jehovah's Witness (2)
@ the majority being SH or UU: I like this line from Qeise (post 63) "Not being sure makes me a Secular Humanist. Which is cool." Sounds about right.

Also, Black Humor's quote from The Other Wiki (post 65)

Secular Humanism, alternatively known as Humanism (often with a capital H to distinguish it from other forms of humanism), is a secular philosophy that embraces human reason, ethics, and justice, and the search for human fulfillment. It specifically rejects religious dogma, supernaturalism, pseudoscience or superstition as the basis of morality and decision-making.

The nice thing is that, while our opinions will often drown out everyone else, we will respect that they have different opinions and try to see it from their point of view. We might even change our view on a subject with the right argument.

edited 26th Oct '11 3:01:55 PM by Belian

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Sakan4k from The Other Rainforest Since: Dec, 2010
#141: Oct 26th 2011 at 3:09:56 PM

[up]More Neo-Pagans than Roman Catholics. I lol'd.

BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#142: Oct 26th 2011 at 3:11:59 PM

We might even change our view on a subject with the right argument.

This is exactly the difference between religious fanaticism (/fundamentalism) and mainstream atheism. Most atheists would change their mind if they were shown evidence or a convincing logical argument for the existence of a supernatural entity.

[down]I agree that it's more a philosophical and less a religious position.

As for the "dogma" part, it's not accurate to define it as "something that conforms to what I ('I' being the hypothetical Secular Humanist to whom an argument was being presented) already thought"

There are ways in which philosophy arrives at conclusions, and different people have different aproaches to them (and different degrees of experience in them, etc;) but it is not accurate to say that most Secular Humanists would only agree with an argument that supported the positions they previously held.

Instead, any argument that was more convincing than the ones that were the foundation of the previous position would change the mind of that person regarding that position. So most atheists could be converted to a religion if a sufficiently strong argument was made in favour of that religion. So you'd have to define Secular Humanist "dogma" as "rationalism and logical thinking", in the sense that those words are used in the definition of Secular Humanism.

This meaning of "dogma" is what I assume you meant in your post, but I wanted to clarify it anyway.

edited 26th Oct '11 4:22:28 PM by BestOf

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#143: Oct 26th 2011 at 4:03:49 PM

^^ Although at least one of those is not actually a Neo-Pagan (AFAIK).

^ But only if said argument conformed to Secular Humanist "dogma" (the principles a Secular Humanist would perceive as constituting a convincing logical argument). That said, I'd normally consider it a philosophical position, rather than a religious one.

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Belian In honor of my 50lb pup from 42 Since: Jan, 2001
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#144: Oct 26th 2011 at 4:05:20 PM

(was thinking/talking more about ideas in general than religious beliefs)

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#145: Oct 26th 2011 at 4:25:06 PM

Well, tried again, to check for variance:

* 1. Secular Humanism (100%)
  • 2. Unitarian Universalism (97%)
  • 3. Liberal Quakers (93%)

Well... Secular Humanism stayed the same (hm, I guess that works with agnosticism?), while Unitarian Universalism went up, Buddhism fell off the top three (I guess it's because I rated some things as higher/lower priority than last time. I don't recall) and the Quakers got up into the top three.

Not much change in my religious beliefs, it seems, regardless of how my political center goes this way and that.

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#146: Oct 26th 2011 at 4:49:33 PM

@ Besty: Yes, that's what I meant. Hence the little quote marks around "dogma", to suggest it wouldn't normally be considered such.

Took the test again, mainly to keep this on topic, and got:

1. Reform Judaism (100%)
2. Unitarian Universalism (83%)
3. Neo-Pagan (81%)

My religious beliefs haven't changed, so I guess it's probably to do with the priority I placed on the answers being slightly different (I am not Jewish, and I don't agree with Unitarian Universalism).

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Trotzky Lord high Xecutioner from 3 km North of Torchwood Since: Apr, 2011
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#147: Oct 26th 2011 at 5:30:29 PM

Your Top 3 Faith Match Profiles Are: 1. Secular Humanism (100%) 2. Unitarian Universalism (100%) 3. Neo-Pagan (91%) Your complete Belief-O-Matic Profile with your faith matches and explanations for each has been emailed to the address you recently provided. Share Your Results

The quiz is defective. I am a regular Pagan, even Neo-Pagan is better than those Gay religions they put on me.

edited 26th Oct '11 5:30:56 PM by Trotzky

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BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#148: Oct 26th 2011 at 5:31:11 PM

[up][up][up]To say that something is secular is to say that it does not involve religious belief. Therefore, agnosticism is compatible with secularism.

edited 26th Oct '11 5:31:20 PM by BestOf

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Linhasxoc Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
#149: Oct 26th 2011 at 5:55:25 PM

  1. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
  2. Reform Judaism (97%)
  3. Liberal Quakers (95%)
  4. Neo-Pagan (85%)
  5. Secular Humanism (84%)
  6. Sikhism (78%)
  7. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (75%)
  8. New Age (73%)
  9. Baha'i Faith (71%)
  10. Jainism (69%)

It wasn't really set up for Deism, which is what I actually beleive.

Trotzky Lord high Xecutioner from 3 km North of Torchwood Since: Apr, 2011
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#150: Oct 26th 2011 at 6:20:56 PM

Like I said, the Quiz is defective. IIRC Deism asserts that Jehovah pressed the Big Red Button and then left the Universe to do its stuff, but Theism asserts Jehovah keeps interfering.

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